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>> [NOISE] I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE SPECIAL BOARD MEETING TO ORDER AT 4:03 PM.
[I. OPEN SESSION]
HELENE, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?>> MEHTA, ABSENT. MORA, ABSENT.
>> WE HAVE A QUORUM. ANY USD BOARD MEETING HELD IN THE EDGE CENTER BOARD ROOM IS LIVE-STREAMED AND RECORDED AT THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD.
THE LIVE STREAM IS AVAILABLE ONLINE.
THE RECORDINGS WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR VIEWING THE DAY AFTER THE BOARD MEETING.
THOSE IN ATTENDANCE SHOULD EXPECT THAT RECORDINGS WILL CAPTURE ALL ACTIVITY AND DISCUSSIONS BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER MEETINGS.
I GUESS NEXT UP, WE HAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
DOUG, COULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE?
>> THANK YOU, DOUG. I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO MY TRUSTEES AND ANYONE IN ATTENDANCE, THAT PUBLIC COMMENT WILL ONLY BE ACCEPTED IN REGARD TO THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA, SINCE THIS IS A SPECIAL BOARD MEETING.
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE BOARD'S LAW 9323, MEETING CONDUCT.
INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD MUST SUBMIT A COMPLETED PUBLIC COMMENT CARD BEFORE THE CONSIDERATION OF THE ITEM.
INDIVIDUALS WILL BE ALLOWED TWO MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE BOARD, AND THE BOARD SHALL LIMIT THE TOTAL TIME FOR PUBLIC INPUT ON EACH ITEM TO 20 MINUTES.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE FILL OUT A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD AND HAND IT TO THE STAFF MEMBER AT THE TABLE OUTSIDE THE BOARDROOM.
IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, NOW'S YOUR CHANCE BEFORE WE MOVE ON.
TO FILL OUT A CARD, THAT'S YOUR CHANCE TO DO THAT.
NEXT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA?
[IV. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA]
MOVED BY TRUSTEE HARDEN.HELENE, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
NEXT UP, WE HAVE A STUDY SESSION ON FACILITIES,
[V.a. Facilities Updates and Future Planning]
UPDATES, AND FUTURE PLANNING.DOUG OR OUR ASSOCIATE SUPERINTENDENT WILL LEAD US THROUGH UPDATES AND A PLAN, AND A STUDY SESSION THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THIS EVENING.
>> HELLO. GOOD EVENING, TRUSTEE GRANT, TRUSTEES, AND PUBLIC.
TAKE A SECOND. WELL, THAT'S ONE.
>> WE'RE ONLY SEEING ONE PUBLIC COMMENT.
I TRY TO BE SENSITIVE TO COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.
SOME FOLKS WOULD PREFER TO DO THE PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER THE PRESENTATION.
BUT SINCE WE'RE HAVING LOOKS LIKE SOME MINOR TECHNICAL ISSUES, WE HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.
BUT I THINK IF IT DOESN'T DISPLEASE ANYONE, WE'LL TAKE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS FIRST.
THEN THAT'LL GIVE THE STAFF SOME TIME TO GET THE PRESENTATION, OR WE COULD DO IT EITHER WAY.
I'M TOTALLY OPEN-MINDED IF THERE ISN'T A DISAGREEABLE POSITION HERE. AFTER, MISS TURMAN?
>> EITHER WAY? WE'RE AT FIVE? WE'LL HANG ON TO IT AFTER.
>> ARE YOU ASKING EVERYBODY? [OVERLAPPING].
>> SURE. THIS IS A PUBLIC MEETING.
>> WELL, ASK IN GENERAL, AND TWO PEOPLE REPLIED. WHAT'S YOUR OPINION? YOU LIKE TO GO FIRST? DO OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS FIRST.
>> WHERE ARE MY NEW PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM?
>> THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBERS. HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE IN BUILDING SCHOOLS IN THIS DISTRICT, I WANTED TO WEIGH IN ON THE UPPER WEST SIDE PROJECT.
THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT WILL END UP IN YOUR LAP FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
DEVELOPERS ARE PROMISING TO BUILD SCHOOLS, BUT THAT MEANS IS REALLY VAGUE.
YOU NEED TO BE SURE THAT THE SCHOOLS ARE BUILT BEFORE THE KIDS ARRIVE.
HAVING LIVED THROUGH TWO BUILDING MORATORIUMS. I KNOW THAT IT TAKES FOUR MONTHS TO BUILD HOUSES, AND IT TAKES TWO YEARS TO BUILD A SCHOOL.
WE HAD TWO BUILDING MORATORIUMS, AND WHEN THEY CAME OFF, SUDDENLY PEOPLE WERE CALLING AND SAYING, "WE LIVE ON GREY EGRET DRIVE, AND WHERE'S THE BUS STOP?"
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WE DIDN'T HAVE GREY EGRET DRIVE ON OUR MAPS AT THAT TIME.IT CROWDED ALL OF OUR FACILITIES.
YOU NEED TO BE AWARE THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
YOU NEED TO HAVE THE SCHOOLS BUILT SO THAT THE KIDS CAN COME TO THEM.
YOU NEED TO BE SURE THAT THERE ARE PENALTIES FOR NON-COMPLIANCE.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DEVELOPERS INVOLVED, AND THEY'LL SAY THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY YET, BUT IT'S COMING, AND THEY'LL BUILD IT EVENTUALLY.
IF ALL ELSE FAILS, YOU CAN TAKE THEM TO COURT, WHICH WILL LEAD YOU TO ANOTHER FIVE YEARS IN COURT.
THEY'VE GOT THE MONEY AND THE TIME TO DO THAT.
YOU HAVE TO HOUSE THE CHILDREN IN THE MEANTIME.
MEANWHILE, YOU'LL HAVE PARENTS FROM EVERY SCHOOL IN THE DISTRICT SAYING, "ALL THE MONEY FOR MY KIDS' SCHOOL IS GOING TO BUILD THOSE SCHOOLS.
WHY ARE MY KIDS' SCHOOLS OVERCROWDED AND MY PARKING LOTS OVERCROWDED?" YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT RIGHT AWAY.
YOU NEED TO BE SURE THAT THE SCHOOLS ARE FUNDED THROUGH A MELLO-ROOS.
YOU DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING CAPACITY NOW.
LET ME SAY TO YOU THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN GREATLY SUPPORTIVE OF GO BONDS IN THE PAST, BUT THERE IS SUCH ANIMOSITY TOWARDS THIS PROJECT.
PEOPLE WILL SAY, "THE DEVELOPER SAID THEY'D BUILD IT, LET THEM BUILD IT," AND I'M AFRAID YOU WON'T GET THE SUPPORT FOR A GO BOND IF YOU'RE EXPECTING TO BUILD THIS.
>> I'LL SHARE WITH YOU THE REST OF MY COMMENTS BY WRITING. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. FORMER TRUSTEE BURNS.
NEXT STEP, I HAVE SACHIKO KANASTU FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR MINUTES.
>> I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE I HAVE FOUR MINUTES.
TWO OF MY MINUTES WERE DONATED BY MISS LINA SUSA.
MISS LINA IS A FORMER NUSD STUDENT.
I'M HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE OF THE FACILITIES UPDATE AND THE RATS THAT WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET RID OF.
THE RATS THAT ARE STILL THERE, THE RATS THAT HAVE BEEN WHEN YOUR SPECIAL ED DEPARTMENT.
BECAUSE OF THE RATS, I HAVE TALKED TO MANY CONSTITUENTS, AND THE CONSTITUENTS HAVE SPOKEN, AND THIS IS A NOTICE OF INTENTION TO CIRCULATE A RECALL PETITION.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE MISSING SOME OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS.
NOT EVERYONE FAILED, BUT THE COMMUNITY HAS JUDGED YOU.
YOU HAVE A PACKET IN FRONT OF YOU THAT SAYS PASS OR FAIL.
MISS CASTILLO, TO BE DETERMINED.
MR. NOEL MORA ACTUALLY PASSED.
MISS MEHTA IS STILL TO BE DETERMINED.
SO IF YOU DON'T LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS.
ALL OF YOU SHOULD KNOW ME BY NOW.
I MAKE PROMISES THAT I ACTUALLY KEEP.
I AM TIRED OF US HAVING TO BEG FOR THINGS THAT OUR KIDS DESERVE.
I'M TIRED OF HAVING TO BEG FOR WHAT MY CHILDREN DESERVE.
EVERY CHILD, EVERY TEACHER SHOULD BE ABLE TO COME TO WORK WITHOUT A FLEA INFESTATION, GETTING BITTEN AND HAVING TO GO TO THE DOCTORS, WITHOUT MICE AND WITHOUT RATS IN THE FACILITIES.
THESE TEACHERS DESERVE TO GET THE MONEY BACK FROM THE MEDICAL EXPENSES THAT OUR KIDS BRING IN AND GO BACK TO THE TEACHERS IN THE CLASSROOMS. OUR TEACHERS DESERVE BETTER PAY THAN WHAT THEY'RE GETTING BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE'RE ONE OF THE LOWEST PAID IN THE DISTRICT.
WE'VE HAD SPECIAL ED VACANCIES FOR YEARS GOING ON IN THIS DISTRICT, AND YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO ADDRESS THAT.
YOU CAN'T KEEP ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL.
WHEN WE COME AND WE COMPLAIN ABOUT OUR KIDS, BECAUSE WE'RE VOCAL, NOW YOU'VE SHIFTED FROM OTHER SCHOOLS, YOU ROB THE OTHER SCHOOLS OF THEIR SPECIAL ED TEACHERS AND PUT THEM OVER HERE TO QUIET US WHO ARE COMPLAINING.
YOU NEED TO HAVE RETENTION INCENTIVES, AND YOU NEED TO BE PUTTING SIGN-ON BONUSES FOR SPECIAL ED TEACHERS, SO THAT YOU GET THE TEACHERS THAT YOU HAVE.
I'M SORRY TO SAY THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING THAT I DIDN'T ATTEND, BUT MY SON ATTENDED AND READ A STATEMENT FOR ME.
THAT WAS MY CHILD, MY CHILD WHO ALSO FAILED, AND I'M NOT GOING TO LET YOU FAIL MY OTHER CHILDREN BECAUSE YOU NEED TO DO WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
IF YOU DON'T DO WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, WE WILL RECALL YOU.
WE DON'T WANT SCOTT, THE DAD, BUT YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID, SCOTT, I'M THE CHARTER SCHOOL DAD.
NOT I'M SCOTT, THE DAD THAT ACTUALLY WORKS FOR NATOMAS, EXCEPT FOR THE TIME WHEN I COME AND BEG FOR YOUR VOTES. WE DON'T WANT THAT.
WE DON'T WANT THE EMPTY PROMISES OF, YEAH, I'M GOING TO FIX SPECIAL ED.
EIGHT YEARS LATER, NOTHING'S DONE.
WE DON'T WANT, YEAH, I'M GOING TO GET THE BOARD SANCTIONED.
I SHOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO DO THAT BY MYSELF.
I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO SUE THE DISTRICT FOR YOU GUYS TO BE DISTRICTED OUT WHEN THOSE WERE YOUR CAMPAIGN PROMISES.
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IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING THAT COMES OUT OF MY MOUTH, BELIEVE THIS.I SPEAK FOR MY CHILDREN WHO HAPPEN TO BE BLACK.
I DON'T NEED PARENTS UP HERE THAT DON'T HAVE KIDS IN THE DISTRICT BEHIND ME, CHEERING ME ON, THAT ARE BASICALLY DON'T HAVE ANY SKIN IN THE GAME, BUT POLITICAL ASPIRATIONS.
I'M TIRED OF YOU PEOPLE STEPPING ON THE BACKS OF OUR KIDS FOR POLITICAL GAIN.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO AN OFFICE, MOVE ON WITH YOUR OWN LAURELS, DO IT ON YOUR OWN, NOT AT THE DETRIMENT OF OUR CHILDREN.
EITHER DON'T RUN AGAIN OR GO TO THE OFFICE THAT YOU WANT, GO TO FOLSOM, GO TO THE CAPITOL, DO WHAT YOU WANT.
I GOT TWO SECONDS. I GOT SECONDS.
RECALLING MY TIME. RECALLING MY TIME.
THAT'S WHY YOU'RE BEING RECALLED, AND IT WILL BE PUBLIC NOTICE.
>> THAT'S TOTALLY FINE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
NEXT UP, WE HAVE, IS IT LINA SUSA.
THANK YOU. NEXT UP, WE HAVE SHARON THURMAN.
>> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF OUR STUDENTS AND OUR PARENTS TO ASK THAT AS YOU MAKE THIS DECISION, AS YOU LISTEN TO THE PRESENTATION BY THE STAFF, THAT YOU, AND I'M SURE YOU WILL, MAKE AS CLEAR AS POSSIBLE THE OPTIONS THAT OUR PARENTS WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, THE PARENT ENGAGEMENT COMPONENT THAT A LOT OF PARENTS FEEL THEY DON'T RECEIVE, EVEN THOUGH THE DISTRICT DOES A VERY GOOD JOB OF PUTTING INFORMATION IN THE PARENT SQUARE, MAKING IT AS AVAILABLE AS POSSIBLE.
THE FEEDBACK I GET IS THAT THERE'S NOW TOO MUCH INFORMATION.
DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT THAT, EXCEPT TO KEEP TRYING.
ANY OTHER AVENUES? I THINK TIKTOK IS PRETTY FAMILIAR OR PRETTY POPULAR.
ANY SHORT SYNOPSIS THAT CAN BE GIVEN TO PARENTS ON WHAT THE FUTURE MIGHT LOOK LIKE FOR FACILITIES, FOR IMPROVEMENTS, FOR ADAPTATIONS.
I'M HOPING THAT THEY'RE PART OF THE WHOLE ANALYSIS FOR WHAT OUR DISTRICT WILL BE DOING IN THE FUTURE, SINCE THEY'RE PART OF THE FUTURE.
OUR ORGANIZATION IS ALSO GUILTY OF LEAVING THEM OUT OF THE DECISION-MAKING PROCESS.
OUR STUDENTS, THANKS TO AI OR IN ADDITION TO AI, CAN BE PRETTY SMART AT LETTING US KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO RECEIVE.
I JUST WANT TO ALSO ENCOURAGE US.
THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT OPINIONS.
I'M GLAD WE LIVE IN A COUNTRY WHERE WE CAN ACKNOWLEDGE THOSE, WHETHER WE AGREE WITH THEM OR NOT, AND LET'S PROCEED.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PRESENTATION.
I'M SURE I'LL HAVE MORE QUESTIONS AFTER THAT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT UP, I HAVE, IS IT ZACHARY [INAUDIBLE]?
>> YOU WANT ME TO HAVE YOURS? IT'S JUST THE RE-COMPETITION.
>> I'M HERE TO SPEAK BRIEFLY JUST ON BEHALF OF MY SCHOOL SITE AS A RELATIVELY YOUNG TEACHER IN THE DISTRICT.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DISTRICT'S PLANS FOR EXPANSION.
IT'S EXCITING TO ME TO THINK ABOUT.
BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THAT EXCITEMENT, WE DON'T LOSE SIGHT OF OUR CURRENT FACILITIES, WHICH, IN MY VIEW, ARE BEING NEGLECTED AT SOME SCHOOL SITES.
AT MY SCHOOL SITE, IN PARTICULAR, SPEAKING OF FACILITIES, OUR PLAYGROUND IS SMALL FOR A K-6 SCHOOL.
THE GRASS AREA HAS BEEN COMPLETELY OFF-LIMITS SINCE DAY 1.
OUR STUDENTS HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO PLAY ON THE GRASS.
WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT IT'S BEING RESEATED.
WE WERE TOLD AT ONE POINT THAT IT WOULD BE REPLACED WITH ASTRO TURF.
NOW WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE TIMELINE IS.
I JUST GOT OUT OF A MEETING WITH MY PRINCIPAL, WHERE I ASKED HER ABOUT IT, AND SHE WAS UNABLE TO PROVIDE ME WITH AN ANSWER.
OUR STUDENTS HAVE HAD NO ACCESS TO GRASS THIS ENTIRE SCHOOL YEAR.
WE WERE TOLD THAT WE WOULD HAVE BASKETBALL HOOPS PUT INTO OUR PLAYGROUND; WE'RE THE ONLY SCHOOL SITE IN THE DISTRICT THAT HAS NO BASKETBALL COURTS ON OUR PLAYGROUND.
WE WERE TOLD WE WOULD HAVE HOOPS PUT IN.
THEY CAME IN AND PAINTED SOME HALF COURTS, AND WE STILL HAVE NO HOOPS.
SO WE HAVE HALF COURTS PAINTED ON THE GROUND AT OUR SCHOOL, AND WE HAVE NO HOOPS FOR THE KIDS TO SHOOT THE BALLS INTO.
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SOME DISUSED TETHER BALL POLES THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN IN USE IN THE FOUR YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN THERE, THAT JUST STICK UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PLAYGROUND, AND KIDS RUN INTO THEM SOMETIMES BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST METAL POLES STICKING UP OUT OF THE GROUND.THEN, IN OUR FIELD AREA, WHICH IS SEPARATED FROM OUR PLAYGROUND BY A ROAD THROUGH WHICH TRUCKS AND BUSES DRIVE WITHOUT WARNING, WITH NO CROSSWALK.
WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO USE THAT AREA EITHER BECAUSE ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE WERE PROMISED WOULD BE OUT THERE HAS STILL NOT YET ARRIVED.
I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE ANY OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS OR THE SUPERINTENDENT TO COME TAKE A TOUR OF OUR SCHOOL TO SEE WHAT THE PLAYGROUND LOOKS LIKE.
I BELIEVE THAT WITH SOME CONCENTRATED ACTION AND SOME WILL, THIS COULD BE FIXED FAIRLY EASILY AND FAIRLY SIMPLY.
ALL OF THESE WERE THINGS THAT WE WERE PROMISED BY THE BEGINNING OF THIS SCHOOL YEAR, AND WE STILL HAVE YET TO RECEIVE. THANK YOU.
>> THAT'S THE LAST OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT I HAVE.
HELENE, CAN WE PLEASE RE-ESTABLISH THE ROLL CALL VOTE?
>> WE HAVE A QUORUM. DOUG, YOU'RE READY TO GO.
>> I'M. THANKS. ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU.
TONIGHT, WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME UPDATES.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING AROUND THE DISTRICT, CONSTRUCTION WISE, NEW DEVELOPMENTS, THINGS THAT WE WANT.
SOME OF THE GOALS FOR THIS TONIGHT REALLY FOCUSES AROUND GOAL NUMBER 3 FOR THE DISTRICT CREATE A SAFE ENGAGING ENVIRONMENT WHERE STUDENTS CONNECT TO SCHOOL.
A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING TONIGHT ISN'T ABOUT NECESSARILY MAINTENANCE.
IT'S MORE ON THE PLANNING AND STRATEGIC PLANNING SIDE.
FOR EXAMPLE, TONIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE PLAN IN NSD MEASURES J AND MEASURE L BONDS, WHERE WE ARE WITH THOSE.
I'LL GIVE SOME UPDATES ON SOME FUTURE PROJECTS.
SPECIFICALLY, SOME CITY AND COUNTY PROJECTS THAT ARE HAPPENING AROUND US.
SOME OF THOSE ARE IN OUR DISTRICT, AND SOME OF THEM ARE NOT, BUT THEY STILL AFFECT US.
THEN ALSO, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FUTURE GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BACK IN 2024, REVISIT THAT TONIGHT, AND THEN DISCUSSION AROUND SOME SCHOOL MODELS MOVING FORWARD.
AS WE START OFF WITH FACILITY PLANNING AND THE NATOMAS, SOME ENROLLMENT AND CAPACITY INFORMATION.
AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE'VE DONE MULTIPLE FACILITIES MASTER PLANS OVER THE YEARS.
AS THE MORATORIUM WAS ENDING, AND CONSTRUCTION WAS ALLOWED TO START AGAIN.
2014, WE HAD A FACILITIES MASTER PLAN CREATED.
SIGNIFICANT SCHOOL AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WENT INTO THAT OVER THE COURSE OF MORE THAN A YEAR.
THEN IN 2017, WE DID AN UPDATE TO THAT BECAUSE THINGS HAD CHANGED RAPIDLY.
THEN BACK IN 2024, WE DID A WHOLE REWORK START OVER WITH THAT BECAUSE SO MUCH WORK HAD BEEN DONE, AND, TAKES US TO WHERE WE ARE NOW.
PROJECTIONS ARE STILL OUR BEST ESTIMATE, BUT WE KNOW BASED ON WHAT'S HAPPENING, THERE'S GOING TO BE POTENTIAL SIGNIFICANT GROWTH, DEPENDING WHICH PROJECTS GET APPROVED, THAT COULD BE FAST OR IT COULD BE OVER A LONG TIME, BUT WE JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE.
ESTIMATES THOUGH DO SHOW THAT WE WOULD BE AT 18,000 PLUS STUDENTS IN DEPENDENT SCHOOLS BY ABOUT 2033.
THAT COULD BE AGAIN, LIKE I'M SAYING, THAT'S A PROJECTION BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW NOW, BUT THAT'S ALL SUBJECT TO CHANGE.
IT'S REALLY HARD TO SEE ON THIS SMALL OF A SCREEN.
BUT THESE SHOW OUR PROJECTIONS OVER THE YEARS, LOOKING AT ALL THE WAY UP TO 2033, AND THEN BY SCHOOL TYPE AND GRADE LEVELS ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH NINTH THROUGH 12TH GRADE AND SHOWING THAT 18,000 STUDENTS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THIS DOES NOT ALSO INCLUDE THE CHARTER SCHOOL, WHICH WOULD BE ON TOP OF THAT ANOTHER FIVE, 6,000 STUDENTS.
MEASURE J AND L. LOT OF PROJECTS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED OVER THE LAST, LET'S SAY, 13, 14 YEARS, 15 YEARS.
SOME OF THE MEASURE J PROJECTS LISTED THERE.
I WON'T READ THEM ALL OFF, BUT YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE BANNING CREEK AMERICAN LAKES AND JEFFERSON, ALL HAD MASSIVE FACILITY PROJECTS THAT TOOK PLACE.
WE'VE HAD TWO STORY BUILDINGS ADDED TO SCHOOLS TO ADJUST CAPACITY.
EVERY SCHOOL IN THE DISTRICT HAS BEEN TOUCHED WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS IN SOME WAY.
SOME OF THE NEWER SCHOOLS, NOT AS MUCH.
SOME OF THE SCHOOLS THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND LONGER HAVE HAD SIGNIFICANT THINGS LIKE THE EXPANSIONS WITH K-8.
OVER THAT TIME, WE'VE DONE MULTIPLE SCHOOLS, K EXPANSIONS.THEN YOU CAN SEE WITH MEASURE L PROJECTS AS WELL.
THE POOL MODERNIZATION THAT'S GOING ON
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RIGHT NOW AT NATOMAS HIGH SCHOOL THAT SHOULD BE DONE IN NOVEMBER IS INCLUDED IN THAT AND ALSO PART OF THE WORK WITH HERD AGA SCHOOL, THE EXPANSION TO A K-8.PART OF THOSE FUNDS ARE INCLUDED IN HERE AS WELL.
JUST SOME PICTURES TO SHOW YOU GUYS.
YOU'VE SEEN ALL OF THESE OVER THE YEARS, BUT JUST WANTED TO PUT A LOT OF THEM IN ONE SPOT.
THESE AREN'T EXHAUSTIVE, BUT THERE'S A LOT IN HERE.
SOME REMINDERS, HERD AGA SCHOOL.
CONSTRUCTION OF A COMPLETELY NEW CAMPUS AT PASO VERDE.
WE ALSO CONSTRUCTED STAR ACADEMY WITH THIS MONEY, AND WE'VE HAD LIKE I SAID, WORK AT MULTIPLE SCHOOLS.
JEFFERSON WAS MODERNIZED COMPLETELY WITH OUR FUNDS WHICH BRINGS US TO OUR REMAINING BALANCES.
MEASURE J AND L ARE BASICALLY SPENT AT THIS POINT THROUGH OUR PROJECTS.
THE REMAINING SMALL BALANCES THAT YOU SEE THERE ARE ALL ENCUMBERED FOR PROJECTS LIKE THE POOL PROJECT, WHICH LIKE I SAID, WILL BE COMPLETED THIS FALL, AND MEASURE L JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT THAT'S GOING TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES FOR OUR FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS, AS WELL AS NEW CLASSROOM BUILDINGS.
BOND REFUND ALLOCATIONS ARE GOING TO BE PRESENTED ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT IS THE LAST AND FINAL BOND REALLOCATION AS WE WILL EXHAUST THOSE FUNDS IN THE COMING MONTHS.
AT WHICH TIME, WE WILL BE OUT OF BOND FUNDS AND RELYING ON DEVELOPER FEES AND ANY OTHER STATE FUNDING THAT WE'VE APPLIED FOR, THAT WOULD STILL BE ROLLING IN AT THAT POINT.
THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER PROJECTS GOING ON, LIKE I TALKED ABOUT.
WE HAVE THE HAREDI AAGA K EXPANSION.
WE HAVE INNOVATION PARK, WHICH IS A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW AS THE ARENA PARCEL K.
THEN SOME OF OUR CHARTER SCHOOLS HAVE ALREADY STARTED ON PROJECTS OR HAVE PROJECTS IN DEVELOPMENT.
THERE'S NEEDS THERE TOO. LOOKING AT HAREDI KK PHASE 2.
RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW IT'S BUILT UP TO FIFTH GRADE.
PHASE 2 ADDS SIXTH THROUGH EIGHTH GRADE, AND IT'S THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE THE DARKER SHADED GRAY, WHICH INCLUDES CLASSROOM BUILDINGS AS WELL AS A GYMNASIUM.
THEN WE ALSO HAVE FIELDS IN THE TRACK DOWN ON THE BOTTOM, THE TRACK AND FIELD.
THEN WE ALSO WITH THIS PROJECT, WE ARE PRE-PLUMBING IN EXPANSION AREAS IN CASE WE EVER DO NEED TO ADD ANOTHER BUILDING.
WE WON'T HAVE TO TEAR UP THE CONCRETE OR DO ANY OF THAT EXCAVATION WORK.
THINGS WILL BASICALLY BE READY TO GO IF AND WHEN WE DECIDE WE NEED TO EXPAND BASED ON POPULATION.
IF WE DO EXPERIENCE SOME RAPID GROWTH, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO EITHER ADD PORTABLES OR RELOCABLE, OR ADDITIONAL CLASSROOM BUILDINGS.
WE'RE ALSO IN THE FUTURE GOING TO BE COMING TO YOU TALKING ABOUT UTILIZING LEASE LEASE BACK AS THE DELIVERY METHOD FOR THIS PROJECT.
THIS PROJECT WILL DEFINITELY EAT UP THE REMAINDER OF OUR FACILITY FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR OUR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.INNOVATION PARK.
YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE MORE IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES, BUT IF YOU DRIVE UP DEL PASO ROAD AND YOU LOOK SOUTH, YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN A LOT OF HEAVY EARTH MOVING EQUIPMENT OUT THERE.
THEY ARE DESTROYING WHAT WAS THE OLD FOUNDATION FOR SUPPOSED TO BE A BASEBALL STADIUM RIGHT OUTSIDE ARCO ARENA.
IT NEVER GOT BUILT, BECAME LIKE A DUCK POND.
THEY'VE NOW PILED ALL THAT ROCK UP INTO A MASSIVE PILE THAT THEY ARE HAULING OUT OF THERE.
THEY ARE THE ROAD THAT CONNECTS BETWEEN JACK AND THE BOX AND WHERE LE CORDON BLEU IS IF THE TITLE OF THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD, BUT THEY ARE PREPARING TO PUT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE.
I WOULD EXPECT WITHIN THE YEAR THAT ROAD WILL BE IN.
THIS AREA INCLUDES THE NORTH STATE UNIVERSITY.
IT'S GOING TO MIXTURE OF HOUSING AND BUSINESSES, AND I'LL GO A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THAT, BUT ONE NOTE AT THE BOTTOM THERE.
WE HAVE $5 MILLION THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP SET ASIDE PER CONTRACT WHEN WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY.
IT'S A LITTLE OVER 12 ACRES, AND THAT'S FOR WHEN THE ROAD AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE WORK COMES FOR POWER AND ALL OF THAT THAT WE HAVE THAT MONEY SET ASIDE, AND WE DO RIGHT NOW.
LOTS OF DIFFERENT CHARTER NEEDS, LIKE I MENTIONED.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR CHARTER PARTNERS.
WE ASSISTED ALL OF THEM IN APPLYING FOR THE STATE CHARTER FACILITIES PROGRAM, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN THE STATE FACILITIES PROGRAM THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF.
IT'S A PROGRAM THAT'S SPECIFIC JUST FOR CHARTERS, SO WE WANTED THEM TO GET IN THE LINE, AND THERE'S A FINITE AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THERE AND IT'S AWARDED BASED ON MULTIPLE FACTORS.
I KNOW A LOT OF THE PROJECTS IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WERE HEAVILY AFFECTED BASED ON THE FIRE, SO IT'S STILL TO BE DETERMINED WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH PRIORITY FUNDING FOR THE SCHOOLS THAT BURNT DOWN.
OBVIOUSLY, THEY HAVE A HARDSHIP AND A LOT OF PRIORITY THERE.
A LOT OF THE CHARTERS HAVE BEEN SAVING THEIR MONEY TO TO OFFSET CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR THEIR FUTURE FACILITY PROJECTS FOR WHEN THEY COME.
THEN, BOND FUNDS AREN'T THE ONLY THING WE USE TO FUND OUR PROJECTS.LIKE I SAID, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF OTHER PROJECTS AS WELL.
WE MOVED IT TO A PERMANENT LOCATION WHERE IT'S INSIDE.
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WHICH IS BETTER FOR FOOD.WE'VE DONE THE WELCOME CENTER.
WE HAVE OUR MP3 BRINGING FENCING FOR ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS THERE.
THEN WESTLAKE CHARTER HIGH SCHOOL RELOCABLE PROJECT FOR THE EAST COMMERCE SITE.
THEN WE'VE DONE LOTS OF LIGHTING AND OTHER ENERGY EFFICIENT UPGRADES AND SUSTAINABILITY UPGRADES THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT.
THINGS WHERE WHEN PEOPLE HAVE BEEN OUT OF THE CLASSROOM FOR A WHILE THE LIGHTS WILL GO OFF AUTOMATICALLY SAVING MONEY IN THE LONG RUN, THINGS LIKE THAT.THOSE ARE ALMOST LIKE INVESTMENTS, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT.
THEN MOVING ON, WE HAVE QUITE A FEW PENDING COUNTY AND CITY PROJECTS.
STARTING WITH THE COUNTY, WE HAVE THE UPPER WEST SIDE PROJECT.
IT'S THE PROJECT THAT YOU'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT.
IT'S BEEN IN THE NEWS. THERE'S BEEN A LOT SAID AND I'LL SPEND A FEW MINUTES TALKING ABOUT THAT HERE.
THERE'S ALSO A PROJECT CALLED AIRPORT SOUTH.
IT'S DIRECTLY NORTH OF PASO VERDE AND TO THE WEST.
I'LL SPEND A LITTLE TIME TALKING ABOUT THAT.
THEN GRAND PARK, WHICH IS DIRECTLY NORTH OF NATOMAS UNIFIED.
IT'S ON ELKHORN BOULEVARD ON THE NORTH SIDE.
IT'S TECHNICALLY IN TWIN RIVERS, BUT IT'S SO CLOSE IN PROXIMITY TO US THAT IT'S WORTH MENTIONING HERE.
ALSO, THE CITY HAS SOME PROJECTS.
WE HAVE THE INNOVATION PARK I JUST MENTIONED, ALSO NORTH PARK INFILL, AND THAT'S DIRECTLY BETWEEN HEARNE AND HN HIGHT RIGHT OFF NORTH PARK ROAD, AND THEN GATEWAY.
I'LL BRIEFLY TOUCH ON EACH OF THOSE.
STARTING WITH THE UPPER WEST SIDE PROJECT.
AS TERRY MENTIONED EARLIER, SUPERINTENDENT CASILLA AND I MET WITH FORMER TRUSTEE BURNS AND TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS AS WELL.
I'VE BEEN ATTENDING SOME OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND THE COUNTY MEETINGS.
THIS IS A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD HAVE FOUR SCHOOLS.
TO ORIENT YOU, THE BLUE LINE ON THE BOTTOM SIDE, I-80 RUNS RIGHT ALONG THERE, RUNNING TOWARDS WEST SACRAMENTO DOWN TOWARDS THE BOTTOM CORNER.
THEN I-5 CUTS OFF HARD TO SEE IT ON THIS MAP BECAUSE IT'S GRADE OUT, JUST OFF TO THE RIGHT, AND THEN THE RIVER IS THE FAR LEFT, THE SACRAMENTO RIVER.
THE GREEN CIRCLE THAT I PUT IN THERE, THAT SIGNIFIES WHERE WE HOLD OUR LAND.
WE BOUGHT A 88-ACRE PARCEL OF LAND THERE BACK IN 2017 WHEN WE SAW THAT THINGS WERE STARTING TO MOVE, AND WE GOT AHEAD AND WE WERE ABLE TO SECURE SOME LAND EARLY.
LOS RIOS OWNS 104 ACRES RIGHT NEXT TO OUR LAND, BASICALLY RIGHT UP AGAINST IT.
IT'S THIS AREA THAT THE DEVELOPERS ARE CALLING THE EDUCATIONAL NODE.
IT'S RIGHT OFF OF EL CENTRO AND SAN JUAN.
WE STILL WOULD NEED TWO ADDITIONAL SCHOOL PROPERTIES MINIMUM, POTENTIALLY THREE IN THIS AREA IF THE DEVELOPMENT DOES MOVE FORWARD, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM REGARDING A MITIGATION AGREEMENT FOR OUR CONSTRUCTION OF OUR SCHOOLS.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF REQUIRED INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S NOT SETTLED AS OF NOW, AND WE DO NOT HAVE AN AGREEMENT AS OF THIS MEETING, SO THERE'S A LOT STILL TO BE DETERMINED.
QUICK LITTLE TIMELINE. IN LATE JUNE, THE SACRAMENTO COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A MEETING AND THEY APPROVED SENDING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNTY SUPERVISORS FOR THE UPPER WESTSIDE PROJECT.
IT NEEDED TO IN THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT IT INCLUDE CONDITIONS FOR FULL MITIGATION OF PUBLIC SCHOOL FINANCING, SO FULL MITIGATION.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, THAT'S STILL IN THE PLAN THAT'S BEING PRESENTED, ALTHOUGH THINGS WERE DELAYED.
THEN ON AUGUST 12TH, THE CITY OF SACRAMENTO HELD A MEETING, AND THEY VOTED 8-1 TO OPPOSE THE PROJECT.
THEY HAD VARIOUS DIFFERENT REASONS FOR THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THEY CITED WAS AGREEMENT FROM THE EARLY 2000S.
IT'S A AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND COUNTY THAT DESIGNATES THE CITY AS MOU, REALLY.
IT DESIGNATES THE CITY AS THE LEAD ON PLANNING.
THE COUNTY IS THE LEAD ON PRESERVING OPEN SPACE.
THERE'S SOME ARGUMENTS BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE CITY AND COUNTY ON THAT ABOUT WHO REALLY IS THE RESPONSIBLE FOR DEVELOPING THIS.
AT THOSE MEETINGS, A LOT OF THINGS HAVE BEEN POINTED OUT, INCLUDING INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE SEWER, WATER AVAILABILITY.
JUST A WHOLE HOST OF CONCERNS, THE RESIDENTS ON GARDEN HIGHWAY HAVE HAD A STRONG PRESENCE, AS WELL AS FRANCIS SWINTON HOOK AND ECOS REGARDING THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS HAS BEEN PUTTING A LOT OF EFFORT.
YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT WHEN YOU GO OVER THE 80 BRIDGE TOWARDS WEST SACRAMENTO.
THERE'S THESE BIG PILE DRIVERS OUT THERE WHERE THEY ARE PUTTING A SLURRY WALL 100 FEET DEEP DOWN INTO THE LEVEE WITH CONCRETE TO HELP SHORE UP THE LEVEE.
IF THEY WERE TO BUILD OUT GARDEN HIGHWAY FOR THE TRAFFIC NEEDED FOR THIS, THERE'S SOME CONCERN THAT THEY WON'T ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT.
THERE'S THINGS THAT ARE UNSETTLED AS OF NOW, FROM THE BEST WE CAN SEE.
SOME OF OUR ISSUES THAT WE'RE HAVING IS THAT THE WAY WE SEE IT WORKING WITH OUR TEAM AND WORKING WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE DONE THIS FOR THEIR CAREER,
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IS THAT THE PROJECT SEVERELY UNDERFUNDS THE CONSTRUCTION OF NEW SCHOOLS IN THE FIRST PHASE.THAT'S JUST FOR THE FIRST PHASE.
ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO WITH THEM IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROPOSALS AROUND PHASES 2, 03, AND 4 OF THE PROJECT.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY GUARANTEES ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS AFTER PHASE 1.
ONE OF THE FEARS IS THAT THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM THAT'S WORKING ON PHASE 1 WILL MOVE ON.
THEN WE DON'T KNOW WHO WE'RE DEALING WITH AT THAT POINT, AND THEY MAY NOT FEEL BEHOLDEN.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE REALLY WORKING TO TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN GET SOMETHING IN WRITING.
FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT, NOT JUST FOR PHASE ONE.
THAT'S REALLY BEEN A STICKING POINT FOR RIGHT NOW.
THEN THE FINAL PART THAT'S BEEN AN ISSUE IS THAT THE FIRST PHASE ONLY INCLUDE SIX ACRES FOR A TK-8 SITE.
SIX ACRES FOR A TK-8 SITE WOULD BE THE SMALLEST SCHOOL SIZE IN NATOMAS.
PASO VERDE BY LOOKING AT THIS, IT'S 27 ACRES.
HEARNE IS PRETTY MUCH A SMALLEST, IT'S RIGHT AT 10 ACRES, JUST BELOW TEN ACRES.
WE DON'T REALLY FEEL LIKE THERE'S A VIABLE SCHOOL SITE IN THIS FIRST PHASE, WHICH IS A PROBLEM BECAUSE THE FIRST PHASE DOES GENERATE ENOUGH STUDENTS FOR A SCHOOL.
ADDITIONAL ISSUES WITH THE PLAN.
RIGHT NOW, THE PLANNERS ARE PROPOSING THAT STUDENTS FROM THIS UPPER WEST SIDE AREA WOULD ATTEND BANNING CREEK IN NATOMAS HIGH SCHOOL, AND TWO RIVERS.
TWO RIVERS DOES NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO HOUSE ENOUGH STUDENTS.
BANNING CREEK HAS SOME CAPACITY, BUT STUDENTS WOULD HAVE TO CROSS UNDERNEATH ONE FREEWAY WHERE THERE'S NO SIDEWALK AND CROSS OVER ANOTHER FREEWAY TO GET TO SCHOOL.
THAT'S A MAJOR SAFETY CONCERN, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE AREAS THEY'RE WALKING PAST ARE UNDEVELOPED, AND THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES THE CITY AND COUNTY HAVE BEEN HAVING THERE WITH A LOT OF ISSUES.
I'LL JUST PUT IT THAT WAY. WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO TRANSPORT ALL THE STUDENTS.
WE HAVE VERY MINIMUM CAPACITY TO TRANSPORT RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE USING IT FOR MANDATED SPECIAL EDUCATION TRANSPORTATION.
THOSE ARE SOME OF THE BIG ISSUES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT THERE.
LIKE I SAID, THE WATER SEWER AND OTHER CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN MITIGATED.
THE CITY POINTED OUT THAT THE SEWER SYSTEM THAT RUNS RIGHT AT EL CENTRAL IS OVER 100-YEARS-OLD, AND THEY HAD SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT ADDING 25,000 RESIDENTS TO THAT SYSTEM AS IS WITHOUT DOING A MAJOR OVERHAUL.
THEN ANOTHER THING THAT'S BEEN POINTED OUT IS THE WEST EL CAMINO OVERPASS IS ONLY ONE LANE ON EACH SIDE.
SOME OF THE PROJECTIONS WHERE IT WOULD NEED TO BE ABOUT SIX LANES WIDE IN ORDER TO JUST GET STARTED.
OTHERWISE, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH AREA TO GET PEOPLE OUT FAST ENOUGH IF THERE WAS EVER A FLOOD OR A FIRE OR SOMETHING.
THERE'S JUST A LOT OF CONCERN THAT'S BEING EXPRESSED OUT INTO THE GREATER COMMUNITY.
SOME NEXT STEPS, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON A MITIGATION AGREEMENT AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN MAKE SOME GOOD PROGRESS THAT WE CAN BRING TO YOU.
WE WILL BE ATTENDING THE NEXT COUNTY SUPERVISOR MEETING.
I HAD PLANNED TO BE AT THE LAST ONE TO COMMENT, AND THEN IT WAS POSTPONED AT THE LAST MINUTE RIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING.
THAT MEETING TALKS ABOUT THE PUBLIC FACILITIES FINANCE PLAN AS WELL AS SOME TIER 1 ENHANCEMENTS, WHICH IS THE PROPOSED LAND USE.
IT DEFINITELY AFFECTS US BECAUSE HOW MUCH LAND THEY'RE PUTTING ASIDE FOR PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN THERE IS A BIG ISSUE FOR US.
OUR LAST COMMUNICATION WITH THEM WAS AUGUST 20TH, HOWEVER, FRIDAY AFTERNOON.
I DID RECEIVE AN UPDATE FROM THEM THAT WE NEED TO NOW DIVE INTO AND LOOK THROUGH, BUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN THERE WE HAVEN'T FIGURED THAT OUT YET.
WHEN WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE SUITABLE PLAN TO BRING BACK TO YOU, WE WILL.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT.
>> I THINK, AND DOUG, WE DID SEND AN EMAIL TO ALL OF THE SUPERVISORS PRIOR TO THE MEETING THAT ENDED UP BEING POSTPONED, OUTLINING THE CONCERNS THAT WE SHARED ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDES AND ASKING FOR SOMETHING IN WRITING SO THAT WE WOULD BE ASSURED THAT THOSE THINGS WOULD BE IN PLACE.
WE'RE CONTINUING TO PROCESS THE INFORMATION THAT WE JUST RECEIVED, BUT I DID WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT A COMMUNICATION DID GO TO ALL OF THE SUPERVISORS RIGHT BEFORE THAT MEETING WAS SUPPOSED TO OCCUR.
>> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT.
QUESTIONS ON UPPER WEST SIDE? TRUSTEE DOSICK.
>> THANK YOU. AS THIS PROJECT OR I SHOULD SAY, THE REVIEW APPROVAL PROCESS CONTINUES.
I THINK IF WE DON'T START SEEING SPECIFICITY IN THE PLAN THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, THAT WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER UPPING OUR RHETORIC FROM THE DISTRICT I THINK THE CURRENT LANGUAGE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DOCUMENTS, LIKE, WE CANNOT SUPPORT UNLESS WE MAY HAVE TO CONSIDER WE WILL OPPOSE UNLESS.
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MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION. THERE'S I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, THE CITY RAISED SOME PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL CONCERNS, BUT I THINK EVEN PUTTING THOSE ASIDE, EVEN IF THEY CAN GET THE WATER AND THE SEWER AND ALL THAT STUFF AND THE ROADS AND ALL THOSE CONCERNS WORKED OUT.THE STUFF DOUG THAT YOU ALONE POINTED OUT ON, YOU CAN'T FIT A K-8 ON A SIX ACRE PARCEL.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE KIDS WALKING UNDER ONE FREEWAY AND OVER ANOTHER, THAT NEVER ENDS WELL.
I THINK WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER AS A BOARD, WHETHER IT'S A RESOLUTION OR SIMPLY DIRECTION, MAKING SOME STRONGER STATEMENTS ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO SEE, AND OTHERWISE, WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO OPPOSE FOR THE SAFETY AND THE WELL BEING OF THE STUDENTS OF THIS DISTRICT.
>> I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT. ANY OTHER TRUSTEE COMMENTS BEFORE BE FORWARD?
>> I THINK TRUSTEE DOSICK IT IT FOR ME TOO.
IT'S TIME TO PUT THE PRESSURE ON AND I LIKE THE RESOLUTION. THANK YOU.
>> SLIDE WITH THE MAP OF WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE, WHERE IT HAS THE FOUR SCHOOLS.
3K THROUGH 8 AND ONE HIGH SCHOOL WHERE IT SAYS, THAT WE WOULD STILL NEED AN ADDITIONAL TWO SCHOOL PROPERTIES IN THE AREA.
IS THAT IN ADDITION TO THE THREE K THROUGH EIGHT IN THE ONE HIGH SCHOOL?
>> NO. FOUR SCHOOLS FOR THIS AREA IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD GENERATE RIGHT NOW AND IT'S GENERALLY ACCEPTED.
THE AREA THAT WE BOUGHT WAS 88 ACRES, PART OF WHAT YOU CAN SEE THERE IN THE GREEN CIRCLE AT THE TOP, WITH THE SNOWFLAKE LOOKING THING.
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT NEEDING PART OF THAT.
THE FRONT, I GUESS, IT'D BE THE TOP RIGHT FOR SOME FRONTAGE, 88 ACRES, POTENTIALLY YOU COULD PUT HIGH SCHOOL AND AN ELEMENTARY OR K. HOWEVER, IDEALLY, WE WOULD HAVE THE TWO OTHER PROPERTIES AND POTENTIALLY A THIRD.
THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO WORK OUT WITH THEM STILL.
THIS SOUNDS LIKE IT'S THERE, BUT WE NEED TO SEE LIKE THE ACTUAL WE NEED TO SEE IT. YEAH.
>> THANK YOU. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES ON THIS.
I'M SORRY, TO CLARIFY, ALSO, EVEN IF PARCELS WERE OFFICIALLY DESIGNATED FOR FUTURE SCHOOL SITES, AT LEAST I REMEMBER WHEN NATOMAS PARK WAS BEING BUILT, OR IN WEST LAKE AND OTHERS DESIGNATED DOESN'T MEAN IT'S OURS.
>> THEN THERE WOULD BE A COST ASSOCIATED POTENTIALLY WITH ONCE IT'S BEEN DESIGNATED OF, WHAT'S THE COST TO ACQUIRE THAT PROPERTY, WHICH WOULD NOT BE INCONSEQUENTIAL?
>> YEAH. LAND ACQUISITION IS NOT SETTLED.
IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO HOPEFULLY WORK OUT WITH THEM.
THEN THE OTHER THING TO NOTE, THAT IS, IF WE AREN'T ABLE TO GET AGREEMENT, FULL MITIGATION, LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION SAID, ON ALL FOUR PHASES, WHAT DO THE PHASE 2 DEVELOPERS HAVE IN MIND? WE CAN'T PUT OURSELVES IN THAT POSITION WHERE WE THINK SOMETHING'S HAPPENING AND THEN IT SHIFTS MID COURSE.
WE NEED TO KNOW THE WHOLE PLAN FROM THE START.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS THAT I'VE SEEN.
I THINK IT'S PARTLY BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A BIG PROJECT.
USUALLY WE KNOW THE FULL LAYOUT.
IN THIS, WE DON'T BECAUSE IT IS SPREAD OVER FOUR PHASES.
BUT WE CAN'T PLAN OVER UNKNOWNS LIKE THAT WHEN LIKE SIX ACRES IS IN THE FIRST PHASE.
WHEN DOES THE REST OF THAT SCHOOL SITE COME IN? IS IT IN PHASE 2 OR 3? WE NEED TO KNOW THOSE THINGS. THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE'RE PUSHING ON AND WORKING TO TRY TO GET SOLUTIONS FOR.
>> I WOULD ALSO ADD WE'VE BEEN HAVING A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ABOUT FUNDING, AND I REALLY THINK MR. ORR, HE'S PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT AND ENERGY INTO THESE CONVERSATIONS IS WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE FUNDING IS THERE FOR SITES BECAUSE THE DEVELOPERS THINK THAT WHEN THEY REALLY UNDERESTIMATE THE COST OF BUILDING A SCHOOL THESE DAYS AND THE COST ESCALATION, BUT ALSO NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WOULD NEVER ALLOCATE AN ENTIRE SCHOOL BOND TO JUST ONE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE A COMMITMENT TO THE ENTIRE DISTRICT AND KEEPING UP OUR FACILITIES AND KEEPING UP OUR FACILITY STANDARDS.
JUST RELYING ON STATE BOND, WHICH IS NOT ALWAYS GUARANTEED OR MATCHING FUNDS AS THEY COME AVAILABLE, CANNOT BE THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION AS WELL.
REALLY LOOKING AT THERE'S A WHOLE PICTURE WHEN IT COMES TO A BOND AND THAT THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WITH THE FINANCING AS WELL.
MR. ORR'S DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF COMMUNICATING THAT GOING BACK AND FORTH AND HELPING THEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT REALLY GO INTO THIS, AND WE WILL ENSURE AS WE GET MORE INFORMATION AND CAN PROCESS THAT THAT WE'LL SHARE THAT WITH TRUSTEES IN ADDITION TO COMMUNICATION, AND WE APPRECIATE THE DIRECTION AND THE LANGUAGE AND WHAT WE WANT THAT TO SOUND LIKE COMING FROM THE DISTRICT.
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>> ONE THING I WOULD POINT OUT TO AS SUPERINTENDENT CASTILLO BROUGHT UP, REALLY IMPORTANT POINT IS, WE'VE BEEN REALLY AGGRESSIVE OVER THE LAST TWO BONDS IN GOING OUT AND BUILDING SCHOOLS WITHOUT THE STATE MATCHING FUNDS BEING GUARANTEED.
WE'VE DONE THAT THROUGH GETTING CERTIFICATES OF PARTICIPATION, WHICH ARE BASICALLY LOANS FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW ANY OF THE PUBLIC.
WE GET LOANS TO BUILD THE REST OF THE SCHOOL, AND THEN WHEN THE STATE MATCHING FUNDS COME IN, WHICH THEY LAG, THEN WE PAY OFF THOSE LOANS.
THE PRICE OF THE LOAN IS TYPICALLY LESS THAN THE ESCALATION COST OF CONSTRUCTION.
BY GOING OUT AND GETTING A LOAN AT A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE, A FOUR OR 5%, WHATEVER IT ENDS UP BEING, IT'S LESS THAN THE ESCALATING 6% OR 10% OF CONSTRUCTION COSTS THAT HAPPENS OVER MULTIPLE YEARS.
THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION ASKING THEM TO INCLUDE FULL MITIGATION.
TAKING THAT RISK WITHOUT KNOWING IF THE STATE IS GOING TO BASICALLY FUND US BACK.
RIGHT NOW, THE STATE BOND ALLOCATION WAS EXHAUSTED, SO THERE MAY BE A NEW STATE BOND, WE'LL SEE, BUT THERE'S JUST SO MANY UNKNOWNS.
I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.
THERE'S A LOT STILL TO COME ON THIS. WE'LL KEEP YOU GUYS UPDATED.
I TALKED ABOUT ALL THIS. BACK TO WHERE IT WAS.
THE NEXT PROJECT IS CALLED AIRPORT SOUTH.
TO ORIENT YOU A LITTLE BIT ON THIS, AND MAYBE HARD TO SEE ON THE FAR RIGHT BOTTOM CORNER, THAT'S I FIVE, LITTLE BLUE ROADWAY SIGN.
AS IT GOES UP, IN TOWARDS THE MIDDLE AND CURVES LEFT, YOU CAN SEE THE BIG RED PROJECT SITE IN THE MIDDLE.
THAT PROJECT SITE STARTS JUST NORTH OF PASSOVER SCHOOL, AND THEN IT EXTENDS TO THE LEFT. YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 475 ACRES OF FARM LAND, AND IT'S SET TO BE MIXED INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL, RETAIL USE.
THERE'S HOTELS POTENTIALLY ARE CALLED OUT FOR IN THERE, OVER SIX MILLION SQUARE FEET OF WAREHOUSE SPACE IN THIS AREA.
THEN THERE'S A BIG SOLAR ARRAY WITH PUBLIC EV CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT SAYS IT'S CALLED OUT FOR THAT, ALTHOUGH I HAVEN'T SEEN FULL PLANS FOR THAT.
WE HAVE PROVIDED CONCERNS IN WRITING.
I WAS SUPPOSED TO PUT THE DATES THERE, AND I JUST CAUGHT THAT IDENTITY. I'M SORRY.
WE SENT THEM CONCERNS IN WRITING IN REGARD TO AIR QUALITY, NOISE, SAFETY, TRAFFIC, AND OTHER IMPACTS.
ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT THERE NEXT TO PASSOVERD.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT CALLED OUT FOR THIS PROJECT WAS THAT IN ORDER TO KEEP THE BIRDS AWAY BECAUSE THE AIRPORTS THERE DIDN'T WANT BIRDS CONGREGATING, ALTHOUGH IT ISN'T A WETLAND, I WILL SAY TO START WITH, SO THAT'S AN ISSUE IS THEY WANT TO USE SOUND, LIKE BOOMS AND THINGS, WHICH TEND TO SOUND LIKE AMMUNITION AND THINGS GOING OFF, RIGHT NEXT TO A SCHOOL.
THAT'S NOT. WE DON'T FEEL THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
IT'S A HORRIBLE IDEA. EITHER TWO THINGS HAPPEN.
EITHER THE KIDS BECOME VERY JUST LIKE IT'S WHITE NOISE TO THEM, AND IF THERE EVER WAS A REAL EMERGENCY, THAT'S A PROBLEM.
OR THE SECOND THING IS, WE END UP RUNNING AROUND ALL THE TIME THINKING THAT THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON WHEN THERE'S NOT.
THAT CAN'T WORK. THAT WAS OUR COMMENT.
THE SECOND THING IS YOU CAN'T USE CHEMICAL THINGS TO KEEP THEM AWAY BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PUT ANYTHING IN THE AIR.
THERE'S A WHOLE SCHOOL HERE, NOT TO MENTION, YOU HAVE A BIG SUBDIVISION THERE.
THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THAT.
THAT RIGHT NOW LOOKS LIKE IT'S STOPPED.
I THINK BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE UPPER WEST SIDE BEING POSTPONED FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
WE'RE WATCHING TO SEE WHAT THE NEXT UPDATE IS GOING TO BE FROM THE COUNTY, BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO COMMENT AND MAKE OURSELVES HEARD ON THAT ONE.
>> WE'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND SIMILAR WITH THE UPPER WEST SIDE PROJECT.
WHEN THIS WAS FIRST BEING PROPOSED, I THINK IT TOOK A LITTLE WHILE FOR FOLKS TO REALIZE THE NOT JUST THE ISSUES YOU'RE RAISING, BUT ALSO THE AIR QUALITY ISSUES BECAUSE ONE OF THE BIG THINGS HERE WAS LIKE A COMMERCIAL TRUCKING DISPATCH FACILITY OF SOME KIND, WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF DIESEL TRUCKS IDLING COMING IN AND OUT ALL DAY LONG.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S BEEN AS PART OF THE EIR IF THERE WAS ANY AIR QUALITY MODELING, GROUND LEVEL AIR QUALITY MODELING.
IN ADDITION TO THE CONCERNS YOU RAISED WHICH ARE VERY SIGNIFICANT.
IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AIR QUALITY ISSUES OF A K-8 SCHOOL NEXT DOOR, AIR QUALITY DOESN'T STOP AT A CHAIN LINK FENCE.
>> LIKE WITH OUR PREVIOUS ISSUE, IF WE DON'T SEE OUR CONCERNS ADEQUATELY BEING ADDRESSED, WOULD ENCOURAGE STAFF TO BRING TO US A RESOLUTION TO
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POTENTIALLY OPPOSE THIS PROJECT AS WELL IF IT GETS GOING AGAIN.>> I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE IT'S OFF.
IT'S JUST BEEN QUIETER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, I THINK BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S BEEN GOING ON.
I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS IN TRUSTEE AREA 3.
LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE 12.5 ACRES.
BASICALLY, THAT GREEN CIRCLE SHOWS WHERE OUR SCHOOL PROPERTY IS.
IT'S DIFFERENT SHAPE ALMOST LOOKS LIKE A SHIELD.
THAT IS RIGHT UP AGAINST WHERE THE SACRAMENTO KINGS PRACTICE FACILITY WAS.
IT BASICALLY TOUCHES THE CORNER OF THAT, IF YOU KNOW WHERE THAT WAS AT ARCO.
LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE $5 MILLION PUT ASIDE FOR THAT FOR THE ROADS.
THIS INNOVATION PARK SHOWS IT'S 183 ACRE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S PLANNED AROUND THREE DISTRICTS.
THERE'S GOING TO BE A HEALTH DISTRICT, A LIFE DISTRICT, AND AN INNOVATION DISTRICT, AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S INCLUDED IN EACH.
WE WOULD BE IN THE LIFE DISTRICT.
THERE'S ALSO 2,500 HOMES PROPOSED IN THERE.
CALIFORNIA NORTH STATE UNIVERSITY TEACHING HOSPITAL.
THEN THIS PICTURE KEEPS POPPING UP ON EVERYTHING I KEEP LOOKING AT WITH IT.
I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING FOR PART OF THE TEACHING HOSPITAL, BUT IT COULD ALSO BE PART OF THE RESIDENTIAL.
THEN MEDICAL OFFICES, LABORATORIES, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO 100 UNIT SENIOR RESIDENTIAL FACILITY IN THERE, A BUSINESS PARK, AS WELL AS THE COMMERCIAL SPACE, AND THEN OF COURSE, TK-8.
THEY'RE DEFINITELY DOING EARTH MOVING AND THINGS ARE HAPPENING AND MOVING.
THIS IS IN THE CITY. WATER AND ALL THAT IS SECURED BY CITY ALREADY.
THIS WILL BE ONE OF THE THINGS, ARENA.
KATE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A WHILE.
BUT JUST TO REITERATE WITH THIS, WE DO NOT HAVE THE FUNDS RIGHT NOW TO BUILD A SCHOOL SITE HERE, EVEN THOUGH WE DID PURCHASE THE LAND, WHICH WAS PART OF OUR PREPPING.
THE NORTH PARK INFILL I MENTIONED.
OF THE RIGHT OF THE PAGE, WOULD TAKE YOU TO HARING DOWN AND TO THE RIGHT WOULD TAKE YOU TO INTERCOM.
ACROSS THAT'S THE CORNER AT THE BOTTOM.
[INAUDIBLE] YEAH, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE VERY BOTTOM CORNER IS THE PARK REGIONAL PARK.
YEAH. THEN TO THE LEFT WOULD BE H. ALLEN HIGHT NATOMAS.
IT'S A MULTI UNIT FACILITY, AND YOU CAN SEE THE SCHOOLS RIGHT THERE THAT THIS IS IN THE DEVELOPMENT FOR.
I JUST WANT TO KEEP YOU IN THE LOOP, SHOWING SOME GROWTH.
I BRING THESE UP TOO BECAUSE AS WE TALK WITH UPPER WEST SIDE AND THESE OTHER PROJECTS, WHO THINK WE HAVE CAPACITY, OUR REMAINING CAPACITY IS BEING ERODED AND EATEN UP BY THESE OTHER PROJECTS.
THE OTHER CITIES ALREADY HAS INFILL PROJECTS.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO POINT OUT.
I KEEP PUSHING BACK WITH THEM ON.
WE DO NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY THEY THINK WE HAVE.
THIS OTHER ONE, GATEWAY INFILL PROJECT.
THIS IS IN TRUSTEE AREA 3 AS WELL.
AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE, YOU CAN SEE THAT'S THE TARGET COMPLEX WHERE YOU HAVE MOTION TACK AND TARGET AND THAT AREA.
THIS AREA DOWN ON THE BOTTOM, THERE'S A STARBUCKS RIGHT TO THE LIFT OF THE YELLOW IS WHERE THE NEW STARBUCKS AND NATIONS IS RIGHT THERE.
THIS IS 385 MULTIFAMILY UNITS, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE 150 PARK AND RIDE STALLS THERE.
THEN THE BOUNDARIES YOU SEE THERE, NATOMAS PARK NATOMAS MIDDLE AND INTERCOM HIGH SCHOOL.
ACROSS THE STREET FROM THERE AND UP ALMOST BEHIND THE LITTLE LEGEND MAP PART, THERE WAS RECENTLY ANOTHER PROJECT THAT'S BEING FINISHED OUT THERE AS WELL, BY WHERE CHIPOTLE AND THAT AREA IS.
>> SOME OF THESE ARE CONSIDERED NON-STUDENT GENERATING OR VERY LITTLE STUDENT GENERATING, AND THAT HAS NOT BEEN OUR EXPERIENCE.
WHEN THEY SAY THAT, IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY RING TRUE IN THE NATOMAS, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE TOLD, THIS IS THE MODELS FOR THIS IN OTHER AREAS, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, SANTANA ROW HAS BEEN MENTIONED FOR UPPER WEST SIDE, AND OTHER AREAS THAT WE'VE BEEN COMPARED TO LIKE PLEASANTON AND OTHER PLACES.
THE MODELS ARE DIFFERENT HERE.
WE DO HAVE A HIGH MOBILITY RATE IN THE NATOMAS.
IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE HAD FOR DECADES, AND THAT DOES NOT SEEM TO BE CHANGING.
OUR NON STUDENT GENERATING HOUSING GENERATES STUDENTS.
TIME AFTER TIME, OUR DEVELOPER FEES STUDIES SHOW THAT SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T ACCEPT THAT WHEN THAT'S SAID AS THE REASON WHY WE DON'T NEED TO BUILD A SCHOOL OR WHY WE DO.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PROJECTS BEFORE WE MOVE ON?
>> DOES MULTI-FAMILY UNIT MEAN APARTMENTS?
>> TYPICALLY APARTMENTS OR IT COULD BE TOWN HOMES.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE PLAN, BUT IT'S FAIRLY MUCH APARTMENTS.
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FUTURE GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND.WHAT WE ALSO CALL GO BONDS OR GENERAL OBLIGATION.
LIKE I SAID, MEASURE J&L ARE WINDING DOWN.
BACK IN 2024, WE DID SOME RESEARCH ON A GO BOND.
WHAT WOULD ANOTHER GO BOND LOOK LIKE FOR NATOMAS? AT THAT TIME, THE MAXIMUM WAS 276 MILLION PROJECTED.
WE LAID OUT SOME OF THE NEEDS HERE.
THESE ARE GENERAL, DEFINITELY SUBJECT TO CHANGE, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT HERD AAG, THE EXPANSION, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ARENA PARCEL, WHAT A K MIGHT COST TODAY.
IT MIGHT COST 10 MILLION MORE IN FIVE YEARS.
LEO GREEN ACADEMY HAS A NEW BUILDING NEED TO REPLACE SOME VERY OLD AGING PORTABLES.
WE HAVE OTHER OLD PORTABLE UNITS AROUND THE DISTRICT THAT ARE AGING.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE PRIDED OURSELVES ON WITH THE LAST TWO BONDS WAS SPECIFIC LANGUAGE AROUND REMOVING AGING PORTABLES TO BUILD PERMANENT CLASSROOMS FOR OUR SCHOOLS, AND WE'VE DONE THAT.
WE'VE DONE THAT AT AMERICAN LAKES.
ALL THREE HAD AGING PORTABLES.
THEY WERE SOME OF THE OLDER SCHOOLS AND WE PUT NEW BUILDINGS IN THE PLACE.
A LOT OF OUR CHARTERS HAVE SOME PROJECTS GOING ON FOR SIMILAR REASONS.
OTHER NEEDS ARE GOING TO COME UP WITH ALL THESE PROJECTS AND DEVELOPMENTS A NEW BOND, WHILE IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT THERE, $276 MILLION BOND WOULD BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST BONDS.
IT WOULD BE THE BIGGEST BOND WE'VE EVER HAD IN NATOMAS BY FAR, BUT IT STILL DOES NOT COVER ALL OF OUR FACILITY NEEDS.
THAT DOES NOT EVEN TOUCH ON THE UPPER WEST SIDE.
THIS IS PRETEND UPPER WEST SIDE ISN'T EVEN A THING.
THERE'S STILL A NEED FOR A BOND, AS FAR AS CONSTRUCTION AND FACILITIES GO.
AFTER DECEMBER 2025 MEASURES M&D, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THOSE, THEY'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY FALL OFF THE TAX ROLL, WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE IT INCREASES OUR BONDING CAPACITY.
IT ALSO LOWERS TAXES IN THE COMMUNITY FOR RESIDENTS, WHICH IS A GREAT THING.
ONE OF THE SIDE EFFECTS OF THAT IS THAT PEOPLE GO, OH, MY TAXES DROPPED, AND THEN IF WE DO GET ANOTHER BOND, YOU'RE MAKING MY TAXES GO UP.
IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE MESSAGING IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS, WE WOULD DEFINITELY CONTACT BOND COUNSEL.
WE WOULD NEED TO REDETERMINE OUR BONDING CAPACITY IN LIGHT OF THOSE CHANGES AND WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE MEANTIME.
WITH THESE NEW PROJECTS COMES ADDITIONAL TAX REVENUE SO THE BONDING CAPACITY WILL CHANGE, AND SO WE WANTED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION HERE ABOUT THOUGHTS ON STARTING TO DETERMINE NEXT STEPS ON A BOND FOR 2026.
>> WELL, I THINK WE DEFINITELY DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE.
SEEMS LIKE FOREVER AGO, BUT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
GENERALLY, I THINK THE BOARD WAS WORRIED ABOUT THE OVERALL APPETITE IN PUBLIC FOR ADDITIONAL BOND.
NATOMAS IS PRETTY GENEROUS WHEN YOU MAKE THE CASE, SAYING, HEY, WE GOT A LOT OF FACILITIES NEEDS JUST CLEAR NEEDS.
THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS GOING ON AND I THINK OUR FACILITIES MASTER PLAN CALLS FOR THAT CONTINUED INVESTMENT.
I WOULD JUST SAY, HEY, LISTEN, SAME QUESTION I HAD A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. I THINK WE HAVE TO DO IT.
THAT'S MY OPINION, BUT STILL GOOD TO HELP UNDERSTAND WHAT'S THE APPETITE IN THE COMMUNITY WHEN WE'RE TALKING TO FOLKS.
HOW ARE THEY FEELING ABOUT IT? I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF HAS ANY FEEDBACK.
I'M NOT SURE WE WOULD HAVE WENT OUT, BUT JUST IN TERMS OF THINGS YOU'RE HEARING AT A PEER TO PEER LEVEL, WHAT ARE PEOPLE SAYING?
>> WE DO HEAR FROM PEOPLE, ACTUALLY.
ONE OF THE THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND WHEN WE DO HEAR FROM PEOPLE IS WE'RE USUALLY TALKING TO PARENTS AT SCHOOLS, AND THEIR KIDS BENEFIT DIRECTLY FROM BONDS.
IT'S WHERE WE DON'T HEAR, WHICH IS WHY IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO ENGAGE WITH GROUPS TO HELP US DETERMINE THAT AND SEE.
>> WE DID DO A SURVEY WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE AND IT WAS POSITIVE AS FAR AS SUPPORT FOR THE BOND.
I THINK WHEN WE DO TALK TO PEOPLE AND GET FEEDBACK ABOUT THE BOND, THAT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT IT SERVES ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS IN NATOMAS, I THINK IS A PRIORITY THAT PEOPLE PUT OUT THERE, BUT I THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTANDING THAT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE LAST TWO BONDS NOW THOSE GOING TO THE POOL PROJECT AND FINISHING UP SOME OF THE OTHERS IN ORDER TO KEEP OUR FACILITIES AT A LEVEL THAT WE THINK IS ACCEPTABLE FOR OUR STUDENTS.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO DO IN THE FUTURE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS AVAILABLE TO KEEP OUR FACILITIES AT THE LEVEL THAT WE THINK NEEDS TO BE THERE FOR OUR STUDENTS.
>> THERE'S WELL OVER $1 BILLION CALLED OUT IN THE FACILITIES MASTER PLAN.
OBVIOUSLY, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO.
>> WE CAN'T BOND FOR THAT MUCH?
>> NO. [LAUGHTER] PRIORITY WILL BE IMPORTANT, RIGHT? AND EVERYBODY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO WANT TO SUPPORT
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THE BOND ARE GOING TO HAVE THE IDEA OF WHAT THEY THINK IS IMPORTANT.ALL THAT'S A LOT OF WORK TO PUT IN TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT WILL NEED TO FUND FIRST.
>> WE WOULD DEFINITELY DO ADDITIONAL POLLING AND THE SUCH TO LOOK AT NEEDS AND COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND ALL OF THAT, BUT REALLY LOOKING FOR TRUSTEE DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PLACING ONE ON THE BALLOT IN '26.
>> BUT THAT'S NOT THE ASK OF THIS MEETING.
>> IF YOU WANT US TO SPEND TIME MOVING FORWARD.
>> NO, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A CHOICE.
AS LONG AS WE'RE GETTING THE ENGAGEMENT OF THE COMMUNITY, IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DONE AND AS LONG AS WE'RE ENGAGED IN LETTING EVERYBODY KNOW WHY.
MY OPINION, IT'S SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.
>> WE'RE STILL PROJECTED TO GROW AS A DISTRICT IN COMING YEARS PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY.
[OVERLAPPING] JUST TO EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC, THE ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE, LET'S SAY WE SAY, HEY, WE DON'T WANT TO BUILD SCHOOLS AND MODERNIZE. WHAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE?
>> THE ALTERNATIVE IS THAT THE TWO BONDS THAT WE JUST SPENT THE LAST 15 YEARS IMPLEMENTING TO REDUCE CLASS SIZE AND REDUCE OVERCROWDING AND REPLACE PORTABLES.
WITHOUT A BOND IN THE FUTURE, YOU'RE TALKING MORE PORTABLES AGAIN.
SOME OF THE ATHLETIC FACILITIES WE BUILT LIKE BLACK TOPS.
YOU MAY HAVE TO PUT PORTABLES ON TOP OF THEM, THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> YEAR ROUND IS ALWAYS IN THE BACK OF MY MIND AS THAT'S HOW WE WERE WHEN I STARTED.
>> SURE, AND AT THE TIME WE WERE DEALING WITH LITERACY CRISIS.
I'M SURE THAT REINTRODUCING SOME OF THOSE OLD PROBLEMS MAY NOT BE THE MOST PRODUCTIVE, I WOULD ASSUME.
>> CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IF WE RUN OUT OF BOND MONEY, THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR GENERAL FUND THAT'S GOING TO PAY FOR MORE PORTABLES, THAT'S TAKING MONEY LITERALLY OUT OF THE CLASSROOM TO PROVIDE MORE CLASSROOMS.
>> CORRECT. DEVELOPER FEES WON'T COVER EVEN A PORTION OF WHAT WE NEED.
IT'S VERY MINIMAL SO ANYTIME THERE'S GROWTH, WE GET A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY FROM THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT'S NOWHERE NEAR WHAT WE NEED TO ACTUALLY BUILD.
>> TO TRUSTEE HARDEN'S POINT, AS WE PAINT THIS PICTURE OF THE LITERAL EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES OF NOT HAVING BOND FUNDS AVAILABLE.
I THINK WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD PICTURE.
SINCE TRUSTEE EMERITUS BURNS STOLE MY THUNDER, I'LL JUST REPEAT A LITTLE BIT OF IT AND SAY, AS YOU POINTED OUT, WE'VE GOT $1 BILLION FACILITIES MASTER PLAN, EVEN IF NOTHING HAPPENS IN WEST SIDE.
I THINK THERE'S NO REASON TO EVEN TALK ABOUT UPPER WEST SIDE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS PARTICULAR BOND FROM AN EQUITY PERSPECTIVE ALONE.
CURRENT NATOMAS RESIDENTS HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS THAT NEED TO BE FUNDED THROUGH THIS, AND WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS GOING FORWARD ABOUT WHAT OTHER FUNDING MECHANISMS, SINCE THERE ARE LIKE MEALS AND OTHERS, THERE ARE GEOGRAPHIC SPECIFIC FUNDING MECHANISMS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE HAD THE WORKSHOP A YEAR AGO THAT WE COULD EXPLORE FOR THE UPPER WEST SIDE.
WE DON'T WANT TO NOT HAVE THAT PROJECT NOT HAVE SCHOOLS OBVIOUSLY, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN AN EQUITABLE MANNER FOR THE WHOLE NATOMAS COMMUNITY.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT TOO IS THAT IF THE STATE PASSES ANOTHER SCHOOL FACILITY BOND, A STATEWIDE BOND, IN ORDER TO ACCESS THOSE FUNDS, YOU NEED PROJECTS.
WE DEFINITELY HAVE A NEED FOR PROJECTS BY HAVING A BOND THAT'S MOVING OUR PROJECTS FORWARD.
WE ALSO CAN MAXIMIZE THOSE DOLLARS BY POTENTIALLY GETTING THE STATE MATCHING FUNDS BACK TO.
>> IT'S ALL GOOD. JUST TO VERBALLY, BUT BRIEFLY ADD TO THE CONVERSATION.
THE DIRECTION SEEMS CLEAR TO ME, TOO AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
>> THANK YOU. THAT'S HELPFUL. START MOVING ON THAT.
THEN FINALLY, WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT TK, OUR MODELS GOING FORWARD WITH ALL OF THIS CONSTRUCTION, POTENTIALLY, THE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT.
WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WHERE WE ARE.
BACK IN 2006, WE OPENED HIN AS THE FIRST K-8 IN NATOMAS AT LEAST IN THE NEWER NATOMAS.
PBS BECAME OUR SECOND PLAN K-8 THEN IN 2017, WE BROUGHT THIS PLAN TO CONVERT AMERICAN LAKE SPANNING CREEK AND JEFFERSON INTO K-8S.
ONE OF THE REASONS WAS, WELL, THERE'S A BUNCH OF REASONS, BUT STUDIES SHOWED STUDENTS AND K-8S DID BETTER ACADEMICALLY.
IT ALSO CUT DOWN ON OUR NEED FOR TRANSPORTATION, WHICH WAS A DEFINITE ISSUE AT THE TIME.
IT STILL CONTINUES TO BE AN ISSUE TO THIS DAY.
LOOKING AT OUR DISTRICT AS A WHOLE, HI ARRIAGA, RIGHT NOW IT HAS SECOND GRADERS, IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE BOARD TO BE A K-8.
WE'RE IN THIS LAND WHERE WE HAVE K-8S.
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WE HAVE A COUPLE SCHOOLS THAT HAVE DIFFERENT MODELS THAT ARE MORE SUSTAINABLE LIKE TWO RIVERS, 93% OF THE KIDS OR SO ON AVERAGE, GO TO LEROY GREENE EVERY YEAR AND THE ONES THAT DON'T, THEY END UP GOING TO OTHER PRIVATE SCHOOLS OR THINGS.THAT'S HANDLED. THAT JUST LEAVES US WITH A COUPLE OF SCHOOLS WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT FOR THE FUTURE.
THE ARENA PARCEL BEING ONE OF THOSE.
OVER THE YEARS, WE'VE HAD SIX GRADE, OUR TK-5.
LAST YEAR, SIX GRADE WAS ADDED BACK TO THREE OF OUR SITES.
I SAY ADDED BACK BECAUSE THOSE SCHOOLS WERE ORIGINALLY HAD SIX GRADE AS WELL, BUT BASED ON CLASS SIZES AND THINGS AND SPACE AT SCHOOLS, WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE SIX GRADES OFF.
SOME OF THE DATA FROM THE OUTCOMES FROM THAT.
AT WITTER RANCH, 63 STUDENTS STAYED ENROLLED FROM FIFTH GRADE TO SIXTH GRADE AT WITTER RANCH.
OVER THE AMOUNT OF STUDENTS THAT WOULD HAVE GONE TO NATOMAS MIDDLE OR LEFT FOR CHARTERS OR OTHER DISTRICTS.
THAT WAS A POSITIVE FROM AN ENROLLMENT PERSPECTIVE.
AT NATOMAS PARK, IT WASN'T QUITE AS HIGH.
WE HAD ABOUT 43% INCREASE IN RETENTION OF STUDENTS IN THE DISTRICT BY KEEPING SIXTH GRADE AT NATOMAS PARK.
THEN AT H. ALLEN HIGHT, IT WAS MUCH MORE FLAT, AND I THINK BIG PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT IS NATOMAS MIDDLE IS ON THE SAME CAMPUS SO WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO SEE THE SAME RETENTION PIECE WITH THAT.
HOWEVER, IF WE LOOK FORWARD, SOME OF THE K THINGS I TALKED ABOUT.
>> DOC, I'M SORRY, BEFORE YOU GOT ONE, FOR REFERENCE, CAN YOU LET US KNOW WHAT LIKE THE FIFTH GRADE ENROLLMENT WAS AT WITTER AND NATOMAS PARK? SORRY FOR THE UNFAIR QUESTION.
>> SORRY, I DON'T HAVE IT OFFHAND.
>> THREE TO FOUR IS ABOUT TYPICAL FOR THE NUMBER OF CLASSES WE HAVE FOR LIKE A FIFTH GRADE? I BELIEVE IN NATOMAS PARK, WE HAD FOUR FIFTH GRADE AT AROUND 25-30 EACH AND THEN WITTER RANCH SIMILAR SITUATION.
I THINK IT'S SLIGHTLY LESS THAN NATOMAS PARK ORIGINALLY. I DON'T HAVE THE DATA.
>> I'M TRYING TO BECAUSE I'VE GOT A PERCENTAGE OF A DENOMINATOR THAT I'M TRYING TO THAT I DON'T KNOW, SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
>> WE WERE EXPECTING, I THINK IT WAS 40 KIDS TO GO TO NATOMAS MIDDLE FROM WITTER RANCH. WHEN ALL WAS SAID AND DONE.
WE ENDED UP WITH 63 STAYING AT WITTER RANCH.
NATOMAS PARK, IT WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
I WANT TO SAY IT WAS 49 WE WERE EXPECTING TO KEEP AND ENDED UP BEING A 69 AND THEN HEIGHT.
WE HAVE 100 I FORGET THE NUMBER IS A 120, 129 STUDENTS, I BELIEVE IN FIFTH GRADE.
SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE? HE'S NODDING.
I BELIEVE THAT'S THE NUMBER I HAVE IN MY HEAD.
KEEPING 89 OF THEM AT NATOMAS MIDDLE, LIKE I SAID, ON THAT ONE, IT WAS MORE EVEN WITH WHAT WE WOULD NORMALLY SEE. HOPE THAT HELPS.
I'M MAKING ME DO MATH AFTER WORK IN GENERAL MATH IS A BAD THING, BUT HOW MANY STUDENTS DID WE RETAIN AS ADA GENERATING BODIES IN THE DISTRICT? IT'S PROBABLY 20.
>> IF YOU FIGURE THE ADA IS ROUGHLY 13,000 STUDENT.
PER STUDENT ISH, DEPENDING ON THE GRADE LEVEL SPAN.
YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE, IT FUNDS TEACHERS, FUNDS, FACILITIES, AND MAINTENANCE AND ALL THINGS.
>> BECAUSE THOSE TWO SCHOOLS ALONE, HALF A MILLION ISH.
>> THE OTHER THING IT DOES IS WE WERE ABLE TO CUT BACK ON TRANSPORTATION COSTS.
TRANSPORTING KIDS FROM NATOMAS PARK AND WITTER RANCH TO NATOMAS MIDDLE.
ANOTHER COUPLE OF THINGS TO POINT OUT.
THE FORWARD FIVE STRATEGIC PLAN ALIGNS WITH THIS MODEL OF THE K SCHOOLS.
THE FEWER TRANSITIONS, PARENTS HAVE ALWAYS MENTIONED THAT'S BEEN HELPFUL.
YOU CAN GO TO SCHOOL, HAVE KIDS AT A K-8 AND THEN LET'S SAY INTERCOER AND NATOMAS.
IT'S A LOT EASIER THAN WHEN YOU HAVE KIDS SPREAD ACROSS THE THREE SCHOOLS.
IT'S JUST BEEN A VERY POPULAR MODEL IN NATOMAS.
IT'S A LOT OF PARENT INTERESTS WITH IT.
LOOKING AT SOME COMPLETING TKA SCHOOL MODEL.
THERE ARE SOME STAFFING AND FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS, AND THEY VARY, DEPENDS ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
POTENTIAL FUNDING SAVINGS ARE THERE.
THERE'S ALSO OPERATIONAL COSTS, OPERATING MULTIPLE SCHOOLS, YOU NEED MULTIPLE SECRETARIES, MULTIPLE PRINCIPALS, MULTIPLE LIBRARIANS, MULTIPLE CUSTODIANS, THOSE THINGS WHEN THE SCHOOLS ARE CONSOLIDATED, YOU NEED LESS OF ALL THOSE THINGS.
YOU MAY NEED MORE AT EACH SCHOOL BECAUSE THE SCHOOL BECOMES BIGGER, BUT THERE ARE SOME SAVINGS THERE WITH STAFFING AND COSTS.
>> THERE ARE SOME INTERESTING WITH THE CREDENTIALING AT KT-8 VERSUS LIKE A PURE SECONDARY SCHOOL? THERE'S A LOT OF OPTIONS FOR COVERING CLASSES THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THROUGH CORE MODELS AND OTHER ACADEMIC MODELS.
THERE'S ALSO SOME POTENTIAL FUNDING IMPLICATIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, EQUITY MULTIPLIER FUNDS BEING TIED TO
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SCHOOL WHEN THEY COMBINE WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE FUNDS.ARE WE ABLE TO KEEP THEM OR DO THEY GO AWAY, THINGS LIKE THAT? ALSO COMMUNITY SCHOOLS GRANT FUNDS ARE TIED TO SPECIFIC CDS CODES, EVEN IF THE SCHOOLS COMBINE.
SO THERE'S JUST THINGS TO WORK THROUGH THERE.
SO SOME CONSIDERATIONS, NOT FOR ACTION TONIGHT OR ANYTHING, BUT THINGS TO JUST CONSIDER.
SO LIKE I SAID BEFORE, WE HAVE FIVE SCHOOLS THAT ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE ARENA SCHOOL.
IT'S PROPOSED AS A TK-8 SCHOOL.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT AS A TK-8 SCHOOL.
IS THAT SOMETHING WE WANT TO BE MORE FIRM ABOUT OR GIVE DIRECTION ON.
AND THEN FOR THE THREE SCHOOLS THAT AREN'T, WELL, LIKE WE SAID, TWO RIVERS, THE PATH IS PRETTY MUCH LAID OUT FOR IT.
BUT FOR H. ALLEN HIGHT, DOES IT MAKE SENSE WITH NATOMAS MIDDLE TO COMBINE THEM INTO ONE CDS CODE SCHOOL? THEY'RE ALREADY ON ONE CAMPUS.
WOULD IT RUN MORE OPERATIONALLY EFFECTIVE? WOULD IT BE A BETTER PROGRAM IF THEY WERE ONE? WITTER RANCH? IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WITTER RANCH COULD BECOME A K-8.THEY DO HAVE THE LAND.
THERE IS BIG AS HEARNE, IF NOT BIGGER.
IT'S THE SAME ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN.
WE COULD BASICALLY USE THE SAME MODEL AND PLAN REUSE.
WE USED A HEARNE TO BUILD THE MIDDLE SCHOOL PORTION AND HAVE THE TRACK AND ALL THAT.
AND THEN CUT BACK ON TRANSPORTATION AND ALL THOSE THINGS.
THEN NATOMAS PARK, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THIS FOOTPRINT AT A NATOMAS PARK TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
HOWEVER, HEREDIA ARRIAGA'S BLOCKS AWAY.
SO THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS THERE FOR US TO CONSIDER IF WE WERE TO MOVE THIS DIRECTION FOR THE DISTRICT.
SO IF WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THEM GO, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, IF IT'S JUST NATOMAS PARK, THERE'S STILL CONSIDERATIONS TO FIGURE OUT, MAYBE WE COULD MAKE THINGS WORK, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE WANTED TO BRING UP AND DISCUSS AND GET YOUR INPUT ON.
>> OKAY. SO I I GUESS MY QUESTIONS WOULD BE ONE.
I MEAN, YOU'VE PRESENTED SOME OF THE RESEARCH HERE ON K-8.
BUT I THINK LIKE WHAT'S THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AGAIN?
>> SO I KNOW SOME FOLKS IN THE COMMITTEE DO PREFER TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE SCHOOL THAT'S SIXTH TO EIGHTH.
HAVE WE DONE ANY PRECURSORY RESEARCH ON HOW PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THAT OR THE RESPECTIVE MODELS?
>> AND IN THE SECOND TIME AROUND.
WE DID A LOT OF THAT RESEARCH A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN WE MADE SOME SHIFTS. GO AHEAD.
>> YEAH. I THINK WE WANTED TO TALK TO TRUSTEES FIRST TO SEE WHAT TRUSTEES THOUGHTS WERE ABOUT THIS.
IF THIS WAS A DIRECTION THAT WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD, THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT.
WE WOULD BE DISCUSSING IT WITH STAFF AT AFFECTED SCHOOLS, HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, TALK TO PARENTS, TALK TO STUDENTS. I APPRECIATE IT.
BRINGING IN THAT STUDENT VOICE.
WE TRY TO DO THAT AND EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.
BUT WE WANTED TO SEE IF THERE WAS AN APPETITE TO MOVE TOWARDS HAVING THOSE COMMUNITY TYPE MEETINGS WITH THE TRUSTEES BEFORE WE JUST WENT OUT AND STARTED HAVING CONVERSATIONS.
THERE'S DEFINITELY PLUSES AND MINUSES TO BOTH SIDES AND LOOKING AT THE RESEARCH AND THE CONNECTIVITY.
THE SIXTH GRADE TRANSITION HAS BEEN VERY POSITIVE.
A LOT OF PARENTS HAVE SPOKEN VERY POSITIVELY TO US ABOUT THAT.
I WAS AT NATOMAS PARK LAST WEEK AND THE KIDS WERE TELLING ME IN SIXTH GRADE HOW MUCH THEY WERE EXCITED TO STAY AND TO BE AT THEIR CAMPUS AND FEEL A PART OF THAT.
SO THERE'S A LOT TO BE CONSIDERED WITH IT.
SO WE WOULD WANT TO DO THAT RESEARCH AND GET THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND FEEDBACK.
BUT WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT TRUSTEES WERE OKAY WITH US GOING OUT AND HAVING THESE COMMUNITY MEETINGS FIRST BEFORE WE JUST WENT JUMPED OUT AND STARTED THE CONVERSATION.
>> OKAY. AND THEN I APPRECIATE THAT.
AND THEN JUST EXPLAIN TO ME, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE NATOMAS PARK SITUATION.
AGAIN, YOU NEED TO GO AND DO FULL DUE DILIGENCE.
BUT IT'S JUST AT FIRST GLANCE, THE MATRICULATION SITUATION IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE COMPLEX AND WHY IS THAT NOW?
>> THEIR FOOTPRINT OF THEIR LAND IS SMALL.
SO BUILDING OUT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PUT A TRACK.
AND SOME OF THE THINGS WITTER RANCH HAS PLENTY OF LAND TO ADCATE OR TO MAKE IT ACATE.
RIGHT. HIGHT IT'S ALREADY THERE.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW IS THIS ACTUAL SCHOOL THERE OR IS IT TWO SCHOOLS ON ONE SIDE.
BUT NATOMAS PARK, THE ACTUAL FOOTPRINT OF THE LAND.
IT DOESN'T REALLY SUPPORT US ADDING THE TRACK AND A NEW BUILDING AND LIKE A GYM THERE.
I DON'T SEE HOW YOU COULD FIT IT ALL. WE'VE LOOKED AT IT.
IT WOULD BE REALLY TIGHT. IT'S ALREADY FAIRLY TIGHT.
ADDING THOSE BUILDINGS WOULD BE YOU REALLY WOULDN'T HAVE ANY OPEN SPACE LEFT.
THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT REALLY FEASIBLE. YEAH.
>> WE'D PROBABLY HAVE TO LOOK AT BOUNDARIES BECAUSE HEARNE HAS GONE DOWN IN SIZE A LITTLE BIT.
SO SOME STUDENTS, IT MIGHT BE MORE FEASIBLE FOR
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THEM FOR SEVENTH AND EIGHTH TO GO TO HEARNE OR OTHERS, IT COULD BE WITH HIGHT.>> SO IT WOULD BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION OF WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE?
>> SO I'D LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE IF THE BOARD IS GOING TO GO DOWN THIS DIRECTION IN TERMS OF JUST DISCOVERY.
I'D BE VERY CURIOUS WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
HEREDIA-ARRIAGA IS OUR DUAL EMERGENT SCHOOL, OUR FULL EMERGENT SCHOOL.
I'M NOT SURE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LIKE, HEY, I'M JUST GOING TO DO TK THROUGH SIX HERE AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, SO I CAN'T.
>> THEY'RE ALREADY SET TO BE TK.
>> I'M SAYING HEREDIA-ARRIAGA.
I'M SAYING PEOPLE WHO ARE CLEAVING FROM THE NATOMAS PARK, OH, IF THEY'RE GOING FOR SEVENTH AND EIGHTH.
>> THEY WOULD NOT GO INTO THE DUAL IMMERSION.
IT WOULD BE AN ENGLISH TRACK AT HEREDIA.
BUT THAT IS JUST NOT A PLAN, BUT A POSSIBILITY.
>> OKAY. I'M JUST SAYING JUST LOOKING AT IT UP THERE.
I THINK OH, YEAH, I WOULD ASK THAT QUESTION.
SO THAT'S A COMPLETE DIFFERENT EDUCATIONAL PATHWAY OR JOURNEY.
>> YEAH. THEY HAVE SPACE, LAND SPACE.
>> THAT'S TRUE. BUT HEREDIA-ARRIAGA WAS.
>> I JUST MENTIONED LIKE SPACE WISE, LIKE SOME OF THE BIGGER SCHOOLS HAVE SPACE.
WE COULD ADD BUILDINGS OR THINGS.
OF COURSE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YEAH. SORRY FOR THE MISCOMMUNICATION.
NO, THAT WAS MY I DID SAY THAT AND I DIDN'T QUALIFY IT. YEAH. OKAY.
>> TRUSTEE MORE. TRUSTEE HARDY.
>> OKAY. WELL, THIS IS ALL REALLY HELPFUL.
I THINK MENTION SO SINCE HEREDIA-ARRIAGA.
AS I MENTIONED, WOULD THAT BE AFTER THE FACT WITH THESE OTHER.
>> THAT ONE'S ALREADY GOING TO BE A TK EIGHT, SO THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT PART OF THE CONVERSATION.
>> RIGHT. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS FOR NATOMAS MIDDLE SCHOOL TO GO THROUGH THIS CONVERSION.
SO I'M GUESSING THAT IF NATOMAS MIDDLE SCHOOL, YOU KNOW WE'RE COLLECTING FEEDBACK BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE THE DIRECT.
>> I THINK THAT THE HEREDIA BEING MENTIONED WAS.
>> I'M SORRY. THAT WAS A MISTAKE. YEAH.
>> BECAUSE HEREDIA-ARRIAGA WOULD NOT MATRICULATE TO NATOMAS MIDDLE.
>> I MEAN, FOR ME, IT JUST SEEMS A BIT LIKE A LITTLE BIT LIKE A CHICKEN IN THE EGG SITUATION BECAUSE FOR TRUSTEES, WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE, ROLE AND WE WANT TO WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO WANT TO KNOW, WHAT DOES EVERYBODY ELSE THINK? BUT TO KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE THINKS, YOU'RE SEEKING DIRECTION FROM US TO GO AND FIND THAT.
IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. WELL, I MEAN, THAT TO ME MAKES SENSE. OKAY.
>> SO FOR ME, I THINK I WOULD JUST ALMOST FEEL LIKE THIS ONE.
I MEAN, I'M GLAD YOU GUYS ASKED FOR OUR OPINION, BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY FIRST, BUT I PERSONALLY LOVE TK-8.
BUT IF NATOMAS PARK IS GOING TO END UP BEING THE ONLY ONE AND THAT'S THE WAY IT'S LOOKING TO ME THAT'S GOING TO BE THE ONLY TK-6, THEN I'M NOT GOING TO BE NECESSARILY AS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE THE ODD BALL OUT TWO RIVERS.
WELL, AND TWO RIVERS HAS, BUT TWO RIVERS GETS THE CHANCE TO GO TO LEROY GREENE.
>> YEAH. AND WE DEFINITELY CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
I MEAN, AND DOUG HAS MENTIONED, WHICH I DON'T KNOW THAT CAMPUS WOULD HAVE TO BE MUCH SMALLER TO TAKE THROUGH EIGHTH GRADE.
SO YOU KNOW THAT YOU COULD BOUNDARY IT SMALLER, ESPECIALLY IF ARRINA COMES IN AND IS BUILT.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN, BUT THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO GO OUT AND HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS AND GET THE FEEDBACK.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS LANDED ON THIS IS THE ANSWER, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE QUESTION.
>> YEAH. AND THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT.
I'M REALLY GLAD ROBIN BROUGHT THAT UP TOO.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE FOUR TO FIVE CLASSES AT EVERY GRADE LEVEL AT NATOMAS PARK, BUT OVER BOUNDARY SHIFTS AND THINGS IF IT WENT DOWN TO TWO OR THREE AT EACH GRADE LEVEL, THEN YOU COULD FIT MORE GRADES.
WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE FACILITIES PIECE. IT'S POSSIBLE.
I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE IT'S NOT POSSIBLE.
SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT SOME STUFF.
>> WELL, I DON'T WANT TO SEE THEM OVERCROWDED, BUT I JUST DON'T THINK THAT, AS YOU WERE JUST SAYING THAT, OH, TWO RIVERS, BUT THEY GET TO GO TO LEROY GREENE, AND EVERYBODY THINKS IT'S ALL SHINY AND GOLD AND UNTIL WE CAN MAKE THE DIFFERENCE OVER IN NATOMAS MIDDLE, IT'S JUST LIKE I JUST THINK IT'S AN UNFAIR SITUATION.
BUT I MEAN, NATOMAS PARK IS OLD.
I KNOW ALL ABOUT BEING OLD PROUD OF IT.
SO IT'S SMALL. SO I GET IT, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR MORE FROM THE COMMUNITY AS WELL BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER WITH IT.
>> SO IT SOUNDS LIKE TRUSTEE [INAUDIBLE]. THANK YOU.
>> A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE AS PART OF THIS.
WHAT WOULD THE IMPACTS TO THINGS LIKE ATHLETICS, MIDDLE SCHOOL ATHLETICS LOOK LIKE? IF WE DO THIS, I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT IMPACTS.
WHAT HAVE WE SEEN AS FAR AS ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE IN THE DIFFERENCE MODELS?
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BECAUSE I THINK THAT FIRST AND FOREMOST HAS TO BE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR KIDS.AND WHAT DOES THAT WALK US THROUGH? I KNOW WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS WITH THE PREVIOUS CONVERSIONS, BUT WALK US THROUGH AGAIN, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MIDDLE SCHOOL WITH THE SUBJECT SPECIFIC TEACHERS VERSUS THE MORE UBIQUITOUS DIFFERENT CREDENTIALS THAT WE SEE WITH THE K-8, AND WHAT DOES THAT DO SPECIFICALLY WITH REGARDS TO PREPARING FOR GOING ON TO LIKE AN AP CAPSTONE OR AN IB DIPLOMA PROGRAM PATHWAY.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO SEE.
I THINK THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD IDENTIFY A LOT OF STUFF BEFORE WE GO OUT TO OUR FAMILY.
SO WE HAVE SOME OF THESE ANSWERS PREPARED FOR THEM AND OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I'M SURE I HAVEN'T OUGHT OF.
AND THEN NUMBERS, OF COURSE, YOU BROUGHT UP THAT WE COULD LOSE MULTIPLIER, WE COULD GAIN THIS, WE COULD HAVE SOME STAFFING EFFICIENCIES.
WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT BROKEN OUT, ESPECIALLY FROM BOTH AN OPERATIONAL EITHER COST OR COST SAVINGS PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD NEED ADDITIONAL ADMIN SUPPORT.
WE PROBABLY WE WOULDN'T HAVE A MIDDLE SCHOOL SECRETARY, BUT WE'D NEED AN ADDITIONAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SECRETARY.
WE MIGHT NOT NEED A PRINCIPAL, BUT WE MIGHT NEED ASSOCIATE INSTEAD OF ADVICE OR LIKE AN ADDITIONAL BODY, WHAT WOULD THOSE LOOK LIKE ON ALL OF THOSE.
AND THEN WHAT IMPACT TO THE POTENTIAL BOND AS WELL IN TERMS OF WHAT FACILITY UPGRADES WOULD WE NEED TO MAKE TO DO THE SHUFFLING?
>> SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I NEED TO SEE, CERTAINLY COMFORTABLE GOING FORWARD AND HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SOME OF THESE ANSWERS READY SO THAT WE CAN ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS IN THE FIRST MEETING AND NOT WAIT FOR THE FOLLOW UP.
>> I'D LOVE TO SEE A SURVEY OF THOSE SCHOOLS FROM THE FAMILIES.
I DON'T MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO GO GUN HOE AND HIT THE ROAD AND HIT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
I JUST LOVE TO KNOW WHAT THE FAMILIES ARE FEELING BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE SURVEYED THEM AND JUST SEE HOW THEY'RE FEELING ABOUT IT AND GET THE FEEL OF IT WITH THE FAMILIES ARE IN THERE RIGHT NOW, WHERE THEY STAND AND THE STUDENTS VOICES, AND THEN MOVE FORWARD.
>> BUT OUR TEACHERS AND CLASSIFIED AT THOSE SITES AS WELL, OF COURSE.
>> YEAH. THAT WHOLE COMMUNITY THOSE SITES. YEAH.
>> DEFINITELY, THAT WOULD BE THE PLAN IS TO GO AROUND THOSE SITES, AND TRUSTEE DOUG I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING UP HAVING THE DATA BECAUSE I THINK EVEN WHEN WE GO OUT AND SURVEY AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS, THEY MIGHT GIVE A DIFFERENT ANSWER DEPENDING ON WHAT THE QUESTIONS ARE WITH THOSE THINGS.
SO WE'LL TRY TO PUT AS MANY OF THOSE VARIABLE ANSWERS WE CAN EVEN BUILD INTO THE SURVEY.
BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY WANT TO HEAR WHAT PEOPLE THINK, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO LOOK AT THE RESEARCH BEHIND THE MODELS SO THAT OUR STUDENTS HAVE THE BEST ACADEMICS THAT THEY CAN, AS WELL AS THE BEST FUTURES WITH THEIR PATHWAYS AND ATHLETICS AND ALL OF THAT.
RIGHT NOW, EVERYONE CAN DO JUNIOR HIGH ATHLETICS REGARDLESS OF MODELS, SO WE WOULD WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THAT.
BUT THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS PEOPLE WILL HAVE.
SO WE WILL WORK ON PREPARING THAT INFORMATION.
WE'LL ALSO WANT TO WORK WITH OUR EMPLOYEE GROUPS AS WELL BECAUSE THEY DEFINITELY WILL HAVE QUESTIONS AND INPUT, AND WE WANT TO HEAR ALL OF THAT AS WELL.
LIKE YOU SAID, WE DON'T HAVE ANY FOREGONE CONCLUSIONS.
IT'S JUST A CONVERSATION AND GETTING SOME DATA THAT WE CAN BRING BACK TO YOU.
>> AND PART OF THAT ROBIN AS SWISS ARMY DOUG LOOKS INTO HIS CRYSTAL BALL TO THE FUTURE.
NATOMAS IS GETTING MORE MATURE.
>> I LOOK AROUND AT THE PEOPLE I KNEW WHEN I MOVED HERE 26 YEARS AGO.
A LOT OF US ARE STILL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO IN THE SAME HOMES WHERE THEIR KIDS GREW UP AND THEY'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
THAT AGING IS THE SAME THING WE SAW IN SOUTH NATOMAS, THAT WE SEE IN ANY COMMUNITY RESULTS IN DECLINING GROWTH, WHICH IS WHY YOU SEE DECLINING GROWTH IN MANY SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
WE'VE HAD THAT WEIRD DECLINING GROWTH, BUT NEW DEVELOPMENT, ETC.
BUT THINKING LONGITUDINALLY, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKING A LOT OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND EXPANSIONS OF SCHOOL SITES, THAT MIGHT BE ON A DECLINING GROWTH TRAJECTORY.
AND WHATEVER PERIOD OF TIME THAT MIGHT BE, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE PROJECTIONS.
>> FOR SURE. WE WORK WITH THE DEMOGRAPHERS ON A REGULAR BASIS WHEN WE DO OUR FORECASTING AND LOOKING AT WHAT OUR NUMBERS ARE GOING TO BE FOR YEAR-TO-YEAR, SO WE CAN DEFINITELY INCLUDE THAT DATA AS WELL BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING WE LOOK AT BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOK AT STAFFING FOR THE FUTURE, ARE THE KIDS STILL THERE OR HAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> AND NATOMAS PARK IS A GREAT EXAMPLE.
I REMEMBER WHEN THAT SCHOOL GOT BUILT AND IT WAS THE NEW SHINY STAR, IN NORTH NATOMAS, THAT COMMUNITY IS DEFINITELY AGING, AND I THINK WE'LL START SEEING THAT OVERALL SCHOOL POPULATION POTENTIALLY SHRINKING OVER THE NEXT DECADE.
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>> ONE THING TO POINT OUT IS YOU SAW THE GRAPH AT THE BEGINNING THAT SHOWS GROWTH, RIGHT UP TO 2033.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MASKS THOSE THINGS IN NATOMAS, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, JEFFERSON'S NEIGHBORHOOD TURNED OVER, THERE'S A LOT OF YOUNGER FAMILIES HAVE MOVED IN AS PEOPLE MOVED OUT.
IS OUR TRANSFER POLICIES AND OUR ABILITY.
NATOMAS IS VERY OPEN AND HAS BEEN, COMPARED TO A LOT OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS WHERE IT'S LIKE YOU LIVE IN THIS AREA, YOU GO TO THE SCHOOL.
OUR TRANSFER POLICIES HAVE REALLY ALLOWED US TO BALANCE OUT OVER THE YEARS SO THAT WE DON'T SEE DECLINES. THERE'S KIDS AT HEARNE.
THEIR TRANSFER POLICIES HAVE KEPT THEM STABLE, EVEN THOUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, LIKE YOU SAID, THE KIDS ARE OFF IN COLLEGE OR WHATEVER AND HAVEN'T HAD YOUNGER KIDS REPLACE THEM.
BUT THAT'S HELPED OFFSET LIKE H. ALLEN HIGHT BECOMING TOO FULL IN THE MEANTIME, OR NATOMAS PARK.
IT'S HELPED BALANCE BY APPROVING TRANSFERS.
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REALLY BALANCE THINGS OUT.
>> ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE CONSENSUS BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY DOING THAT RIGHT NOW.
>> SOUNDS LIKE CONSENSUS FROM THE BOARD TO JUST MOVE IN THE DIRECTION OF DOING MORE RESEARCH.
>> YES. SO THE FINAL NEXT STEP I MEAN, UNLESS YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, WOULD BE ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT, WE'LL HAVE THE FINAL REALLOCATION FROM MEASURE J&L BOND.
AND THEN WE'LL BE FINISHING THOSE UP.
>> ALL RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I HAD.
TRUSTEES, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS.
>> STAT OF GOOD WORK BY A LOT OF PEOPLE.
>> YEAH, IT'S GREAT WORK. ALL RIGHT.
WELL, I'M NOT SEEING ANY BUSINESS BEFORE THE BOARD LEFT, SO WE'LL CALL THIS MEETING ADJOURNED AT 5:25. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.